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May 22nd 2013
Populism: A Party Alternative to Libertarianism

Posted under Libertarian Party & Politics & Rand Paul

The growing, relatively-soon-to-be majority (link is likely an underestimate), nonwhite population favours handouts. Rather than fighting a futile struggle to convert this group to an absurd libertarian ideology that few of us are deluded enough to believe in, perhaps we ought to reconsider our priorities.

Democracies are said to fail when the voting poor realise they can vote for handouts; but if this is going to happen anyway, then we ought to be the ones buying votes. Perhaps we ought to be the ring-givers, so to speak. Adopt popular positions; drop unpopular positions: sell-out except on the most vital issues. What is more important than saving working Americans from being overtaxed by the lazy? Immigration for starters! Also trade agreements, foreign wars, free speech, homeschooling, gun rights, affirmative action, the banking system.

Currently the GOP is fighting a losing battle for its foreign empire. A populist revolt would abandon these war hawks as dead weight. The war hawks are destined to fall as the US goes bankrupt. Populists should not allow themselves to be pulled down with them if possible.

I’m not a political science guru – just my thoughts.

An alternative is to pursue a strategy of political marginalisation to encourage secession by a dispossessed white minority. This latter seems to be the strategy most on the right favour. Rand Paul might win in 2016. That would be wonderful if he could reform the banking system, but beyond that libertarianism obviously has no future in the US. The ideology is like communism, unworkable; and voters want handouts.

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November 24th 2012
Third Party Watch

Posted under Constitution Party & Libertarian Party & Politics

The results of the 2012 elections for the three biggest non-major parties (Libertarian, Green and Constitution) clearly show the LP is strongest of three as of right now. And that’s not just because Gary Johnson broke 1% of the electorate or gained the LP’s largest vote total in a Presidential election since 1980. Across the board in elections for the Senate and House there were many LP candidates who finished with over one percent of the vote as well and in some cases much higher than that. Indications are the LP cost the GOP at least nine seats in Congress and if one combines votes for Gary Johnson plus votes for Ron Paul in the GOP primaries of Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan, it seems the LP’s influence was there on the Presidential race as well. Combine these good results with the fact that culturally the country may well be going in a more libertarian direction (at least amongst whites: Romney carried young whites 55-40 percent) and LP finds itself in its strongest spot since the early 1980s. If they can continue to build their party in places where said candidates ran strongest (places like Colorado, Indiana and Georgia for example) and continue to identify young, they could become a long-term threat to the GOP. That is, if they avoid the kind of destructive infighting which plagued the party the last time they were in this spot. Finding someone who can fill Gary Johnson’s leadership will be their next big step.

For Greens and the Constitution Party, the results were not positive. The partisan nature of the election took votes away from both parties for their potential bases on the Left and Right. Only consolation for the Greens is they did win state legislative seat in Arkansas. Neither party’s base is getting any younger. However, the future is not completely bleak for either.

With Obama ensconsed for a second term, the Greens can better their activism for their agenda, especially if they hook-up with larger groups on the Left like the Occupy Movement for example. They don’t have to worry about “costing” Obama anything. Remember, the Greens greatest period of growth took place during Clinton’s second term, culmination with Ralph Nader’s 2000 campaign. Back then, it was the Greens who were the most powerful of the nation’s non-major parties.

The Constitution Party finds itself in a position to take advantage of the ferment going on the Republican Party. If GOP decides to jettison its anti-immigration wing or make other changes displeasing to conservatives, it could pick up those groups by emphasizing their concerns. Even with Goode’s disappointing showing, the CP is still the largest conservative alternative to the GOP. And they can get larger if other such parties who are smaller or not as successful join with them

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November 2nd 2012
A ConservativeTimes.org Symposium on the Paleo Vote

Posted under Conservatism & Constitution Party & Democrat Party & Election 2012 & Libertarian Party & Mitt Romney & Obama & Paleoconservatism & Political Philosophy & Republican Party & Ron Paul & Third Party & Virgil Goode

We at Conservative Heritage Times have been inspired by the TAC symposium to do one of our own, although one with more of a paleo edge. I’m actually not sure symposium is the best characterization of this. It is a virtual symposium I suppose. But I’m going with it because we are blatantly riffing (not ripping :-) ) off TAC’s effort.

Not all the people here would be best described as paleoconservatives, and some would not claim that label, but the attempt was to try to get people who might be considered part of the paleo/traditionalist sphere. I asked CHT’s own contributors, plus people I know (both actually and virtually) whom I thought would represent a broad cross section of the paleo/traditionalist sphere, plus some of our regular commenters. Other of our regular commenters volunteered their services.

In order to avoid the appearance of favoritism, I have arranged the contributions in alphabetical order by first name. I am still expecting some more to roll in. They will be added in their appropriate alphabetical order as they do. Please check back frequently and please promote this on Facebook, Twitter, with you email contacts, etc. Thanks, enjoy and discuss. The endorsements commence below the fold. ~ Red

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November 2nd 2012
A Conservative Heritage Times Paleo Election Symposium: Coming Tomorrow

Posted under Conservatism & Constitution Party & Election 2012 & Libertarian Party & Paleoconservatism & Republican Party & Third Party & Virgil Goode

Inspired by TAC’s conservative vote symposium, CHT has decided to do a symposium of our own with a bit more of a paleo edge. Tune in tomorrow for the first installment  We hope to add others as they come in. You might be surprised by some of the talent we have managed to attract.

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November 1st 2012
The American Conservative’s Symposium on “The Conservative Vote”

Posted under Conservatism & Constitution Party & Election 2012 & Libertarian Party & Mitt Romney & Obama & Paleoconservatism & Political Philosophy & Republican Party & Third Party & Virgil Goode

I don’t mean to steal Sean’s thunder below, but I made this post for IPR and wanted to cross post it here. There are some additional links you should be aware of.

TAC has a “symposium” of multiple writers discussing whom they plan to vote for. Some endorse voting for one of the major party candidates and some endorse not voting, but several endorse third party votes or write-ins. Some of the writers include Andrew Bacevich, Justin Raimondo, Paul Gottfried and friend of this website Sean Scallon.

Daniel Larison has a separate endorsement here that wasn’t included in the symposium for some reason.

Samuel Goldman has a separate endorsement here because Hurricane Sandy precluded his participation in the symposium.

Here is a summary of the endorsements.

Johnson — 6 (Bandow, Brimelow, Galupo, Giraldi, Goldman, Kauffman, Larison if he could, Bovard if he doesn’t write in Ron Paul)

Romney — 4 (Coombs, Pinkerton, Tippins, Zmirak, Antle and Birzer leaning)

Obama — 4 (Bacevich, Hadar, McConnell, Millman, Giraldi in a pinch)

Goode — 1 (Scallon, Brimelow and Gottfried would if they could)

Rand Paul — 1 (McCarthy)

Hapsburg Monarch — 1 (Lind)

Not voting/ambivalent/unclear — 7 (Dreher, Dougherty, Gordon, Murphy, Raimondo [rooting for Obama], Richman, Russello, Beer, Sailer)

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October 29th 2012
Gary Johnson Endorses Independent (NM) Jon Barrie for Senate: See Correction Below

Posted under Libertarian Party & Third Party

From an e-mail form the Barrie Campaign:
 
Governor Johnson says, “Jon is committed to lowering and eliminating taxes, minimizing the size of our federal government, restoring our Liberty and Freedoms, and the limits placed on Government as explicated in our Constitution.  His commitment to Liberty and demonstrated conservative economic principles make him the best qualified candidate for the US Senate in New Mexico. Be Libertarian with me!  Vote for Jon Ross Barrie for the United States Senate.”
 Jon Barrie says, “Our nation needs leaders that will guide us back to the freedoms and liberties set forth by our founding fathers.  Governor Johnson and Judge Jim Gray will return us to freedom and prosperity.”
 
Addendum: Well maybe not. Read this thread. This is a mess.

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September 28th 2012
Virgil Goode and Gary Johnson Confirm for Third Party Presidential Debate

Posted under Constitution Party & Election 2012 & Libertarian Party & Third Party & Virgil Goode

I came across this article on Facebook:

Free and Equal Elections Foundation announced today that four candidates have confirmed their participation in the 2012 Presidential Debate at the University Club of Chicago on October 23: Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson, Green Party candidate Jill Stein, Constitution Party candidate Virgil Goode, and Justice Party candidate Rocky Anderson.

This debate is the only 2012 Presidential Debate featuring four candidates. The top six candidates were invited to participate. Democratic Party candidate and incumbent Barack Obama and Republican Party candidate Mitt Romney are welcome to participate in this historic debate. The moderator will be announced shortly.

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 Cross posted at IPR.

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August 21st 2012
Examiner Article: Arguments Against Third Parties and How to Counter Them

Posted under Constitution Party & Election 2012 & Libertarian Party & Third Party

Here is an excellent article from Examiner.com defending third party voting. The author is Matthew Reece. I particularly like this gem:

1. Voting for a third party candidate is a wasted vote because the candidate cannot win.

Anyone who claims this is claiming that the election process in America is rigged. Let us set aside the matter of whether this is actually the case and focus narrowly on the claim being made. A person who believes this should be trying to convince people either not to vote at all in protest of a corrupt system or to take up arms to start a second American Revolution, not trying to convince people to vote for Republicans or Democrats.

Read the whole article here…

Also posted at IPR.

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May 28th 2012
James Antle on Options for Anti-War Conservatives in November

Posted under Chuck Baldwin & Conservatism & Constitution Party & Election 2012 & Interventionism & Libertarian Party & Republican Party & Ron Paul

Check out this article at The American Conservative.

Antle covers Virgil Goode (CP) and Gary Johnson (LP). I promised to lay off Goode until after the election, and I have, but this is a perfect example of how the Constitution Party has harmed its brand by nominating Goode. Anti-war conservatives can’t unequivocally embrace the CP nominee. Any endorsement has to be hedged.

This dilemma is particularly acute this year. Let’s just go back to 2008, when the two major party candidates were Obama and a far more committed hawk than Romney in John McCain. At least the Constitution Party nominated Chuck Baldwin, a candidate who had opposed the Iraq War from the beginning. The Libertarian Party nominated Bob Barr, a former Republican congressman who had turned sharply against the war. Both men were fairly decent choices for the antiwar conservative.

Four years later, the Constitution Party nominee is a former Republican congressman who (like Barr) voted for the Iraq War but (unlike Barr) hasn’t had much to say about his second thoughts since. In his acceptance speech, Virgil Goode apologized for his support for the Patriot Act but not Iraq. In an interview with this writer for the print edition ofTAC, Goode seemed not to have gotten the memo — or the Duelfer report — on Iraqi WMD.

The Libertarians have nominated Gary Johnson, the former Republican governor of New Mexico, for president. Johnson opposed the Iraq War. He wants out of Afghanistan and never wanted into Libya. Johnson hasn’t exactly been humming McCain’s catchy tune “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran.”

But Johnson is much less conservative than Goode on issues like immigration (he’s as close to open borders as anyone this side of the Wall Street Journal editorial page can be) and abortion. His eagerness to dispatch U.S. troops to fight the Lord’s Resistance Army in Uganda while talking cheerfully about a 40 percent cut in military spending could be a forgivable bit of third-party incoherence, but it sounds like a prescription for disaster.

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Similar post without the editorial content posted at IPR.

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May 18th 2012
2008 Libertarian Presidential Candidate Bob Barr Endorses Mitt Romney

Posted under Bob Barr & Constitution Party & Libertarian Party & Mitt Romney & Newt Gingrich & Third Party

This after he endorsed Newt in the primary.

I promised to lay off Virgil Goode until after the election, but this is one reason I’m not so sure that ex-major party elected official are the best sort of “big name” candidates for a third party.

More on that after the election.

 

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April 16th 2012
My Ron Paul Third Party Article is Now Up at EtherZone

Posted under Constitution Party & Election 2012 & Libertarian Party & Ron Paul

My article about whether or not Ron Paul should run third party is now up at EtherZone.

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April 11th 2012
Ron Paul: to Third Party or not to Third Party

Posted under Constitution Party & Election 2012 & Libertarian Party & Politics & Ron Paul

Here is a recent  article from Justin Raimondo urging Ron Paul to run third party.

Here is a reply from Ron Holland that appeared today at Lew Rockwell.

Read them and give me your thoughts. Here are mine.

While I would love to have someone I could enthusiastically support in November, especially with the Constitution Party likely to nominate Virgil Goode who is not a clear cut non-interventionist and the Libertarian Party likely to nominate cosmotarian favorite Gary Johnson, I hope Ron Paul doesn’t run third party or independent, but not for the reasons Ron Holland gives.

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January 23rd 2012
Two-thirds Would Vote Third Party According to Poll

Posted under Constitution Party & Libertarian Party & Politics

From Politico. The Washington Post has the original story.

More than two-thirds of Americans would consider voting for a third-party presidential candidate, while nearly half of all voters think a third-party is needed, a new poll shows…

The most likely to support the creation a third party? A majority of independents (61 percent), liberals (60 percent) and moderates (51 percent) said that a third party was necessary…

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First of all, I don’t buy this. People always support the idea of a third party in general but not when they actually go into the voting booth. Just like they say they will support a third party candidate early in the polling season but that support evaporates by election time.

The good news here is that this probably means there is a solid base for easing ballot access barriers. And while the internals of the polls need to be examined, on the surface this doesn’t bode well for ideological third parties. The greatest percentage of support comes from independents who likely think the major parties are too “extreme.” This might bode well for Americans Elect.

Cross posted at IPR minus my editorial comments.

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December 14th 2011
Gary Johnson to Run for Libertarian Presidential Nomination (Maybe?)

Posted under Election 2012 & Libertarian Party & Republican Party

IPR has the exclusive. (Good job Trent!)

You have to wonder if the Bob Barr situation will hurt Gary Johnson’s chances?

I think it may unless Johnson is able to bring a lot of his own people to the convention. I don’t think LP regulars will be in much of a mood for another interloper of questionable libertarian credentials.

Besides the questionable libertarian credentials (by LP standards), I have expressed before that I’m not crazy about people who perform poorly in a major party primary jumping ship and seeking the nomination of a minor party, especially in the same race for the same office. Unless the person is obviously done wrong by the major party in which case seeking a minor party nomination could have a righteous feel about it, it comes off as sour grapes and gives off a petty “I’ll show you” vibe. It also potentially gives off a whiney needy vibe. Like the candidate is desperately seeking someone, anyone to love him. (See Bob Smith.)

Johnson, as a two term governer of a state, potentially has some room to complain about being ignored, not being invited to debates, etc. But I think those were reflective of his poll numbers and the fact that he really doesn’t have a base within the GOP. He may have a general election base, but he doesn’t have a GOP primary base. I don’t get the sense that there has been an organized campaign to marginalize him because he never had enough support for there to need to be one.

Update: Not so fast. Now there is an indication he may not switch tomorrow. Does that mean he still will at a later date? The editorial comments above still apply.

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December 14th 2011
Did Bob Barr Just Endorse Newt Gingrich?

Posted under Bob Barr & Election 2012 & Libertarian Party & Republican Party

It looks like he did, along with a lot of other pathetic Georgia Republicans. At first there was some skepticism that this was legit, but so far there have been no objections from the Barr camp. Barr was considering a run for Congress as a Republican, but recently announced he wasn’t going to run. But he does seem to be attempting to re-ingratiate himself with the GOP.

On a larger scale, this mass endorsement by elected Republican officials seems to indicate that establishment Republicans are coming to terms with the fact that Gingrich is the last remaining alternative to Romney. Of course there is still Ron Paul, but these types of Republicans are too fearful and/or wishy-washy to endorse a real alternative like Paul.

Update: The “some skepticism” link above was incorrect. It is now fixed.

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October 25th 2011
Vote in this Libertarian Party Presidential Poll

Posted under Election 2012 & Libertarian Party & Polls

For anyone who might be interested, vote here.

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October 18th 2011
Bill Still: Libertarian for President

Posted under Economics & Election 2012 & History & Libertarian Party & Political Philosophy

This site is generally not libertarian, although we tend to be very friendly to Ron Paul, and we don’t necessarily follow Libertarian Party politics closely, but I decided to post this announcement by Bill Still because it highlights an important historical divide on the issue of money that many people may not be familiar with, but that seems to be arising again lately. Still’s candidacy is likely to bring it even more to the forefront.

Bill Still is a prominent “Greenbacker.” Some people in that camp consider the term derogatory. Some embrace it. It is not my intention to be derogatory. We just need to call them something and Greenbacker works and has a historical context. If they would like to suggest another term, I’ll be glad to use it.

Still and other Greenbackers, like Austrian “Gold Bugs,” oppose the Federal Reserve and fractional reserve banking. Like Austrians they will often speak of money “created out of thin air.” Thus some do not recognize the distinction between the two. Their solutions are, however, very different. Greenbackers do not like the gold standard. They see the gold standard and the current system of fractional reserve/Federal Reserve “debt money” as both benefiting the powerful elite, especially bankers, at the expense of the people. What they would like is true “fiat money” issued by the Treasury, instead of “debt money” created by the Fed and banks through fractional reserve lending (often also called fiat money by Austrians). Some will recognize the historic connection to the populist movement of the late 19th century and the Greenback Party of that era.

Still is a prominent and notable Greenbacker because he is responsible for two widely viewed documentaries on the history of money and banking, The Money Masters (1996) and The Secret of Oz (2010). He has also written a book, No More National Debt, on the subject.

What remains to be seen is how well this will play in the Libertarian Party. It is likely to have some market, but that market is likely limited. First, Greenbackers suggest that printing money is a proper function of government so this will turn off the anarchists who don’t concede there is any proper function of government right off the bat. Also, some Greenbackers speak of spending this fiat money into the economy when expansion of the monetary supply is necessary in the form of public works and infrastructure projects. This will offend a broad swath of libertarians. Some Greenbackers even oppose private banking altogether. This too is hardly a libertarian policy.

On the other hand, Still might appeal to certain leftist libertarians. And Greenbackism is subversive enough (it really amounts to a big huge screw you to the bankers) that it may appeal to the contrarian element of some libertarians. May hunch is that if Still is to win he will have to bring large numbers of his people to the convention which is not inconceivable but no easy task either.

There has already been a vigorous discussion about Still’s candidacy at Independent Political Report, but unfortunately it primarily turned into a discussion of the merits of fractional reserve banking from an Austrian perspective, instead of a discussion of the merits of Greenbackism. I would like our readers thoughts on the money issue. Please post them below.

Addendum: I actually think Still and Greenbackism could have some appeal among the Occupy Wall Street Movement. Historically Greenbackers were associated with the left (to the degree left and right apply to pre-WWII politics which is arguably not much) and the populist impulse. But they became increasingly associated with the right since WWII give or take. Still could emphasize the “private” nature of the Fed, how the current system enriches bankers, the need to nationalize the money creating process, the need to “spend” said money into the economy, etc. and resonate quite well with some of the OWS crowd. Establishment leftists will of course be horrified by Still because of the fundamental nature of his critique, but many of the OWS protestors who at this point have nothing to lose, might welcome a fundamental and wholesale critique.

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August 31st 2011
The GOP Establishment vs the Tea Party in New Hampshire

Posted under Libertarian Party & Republican Party

The Establishment wing of the GOP is threatening to throw out the Tea Party affiliated state chairman in New Hampshire. This could get ugly. There is much more to it, but one issue is that he signed a petition to allow the Libertarian Party on the ballot. As a matter of propriety, the acting GOP Chair should probably not sign a petition to get another party on the ballot, but as a matter of basic fairness and decency no Dem or Rep Chair should oppose equal ballot access. Differential ballot access rules for “third parties” is the most blatant example of power politics I know of, and it should shame decent people to be associated with it.

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July 14th 2011
Ron Paul Addresses Third Party Run on Freedom Watch

Posted under Constitution Party & Election 2012 & Libertarian Party & Republican Party & Ron Paul

Judge Napolitano asked Ron Paul directly about a potential third party run yesterday on Freedom Watch. Surprisingly, Paul did not dismiss it out of hand. He commented about how sore loser laws might keep him off the ballot in certain states, and spent a lot of time talking about the unfairness of our current two party system.

The video can be seen here.

Cross posted at Independent Political Report.

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June 25th 2011
“The Godfather”: The Futility of Third-Party Candidates for President

Posted under Constitution Party & Libertarian Party & Political Philosophy & Politics & Republican Party

Here is an article on third parties from “The Godfather.” There is some to agree with and much to disagree with.

Trying to get elected as a third party candidate in American politics is extremely difficult if not impossible since the electing process is not by majority vote. Ballot access is also an obstacle since third parties have to meet additional criteria not required of Republicans and Democrats. Reform Party candidate Ross Perot was able to get on the ballot in all 50 states in 1992 as was Pat Buchanan in 1996. Perot was a nationally known figure who had lots of money to pour into the process. The Reform Party affected both elections but did nothing to advance it as a genuine third party player. While Perot received nearly 20 percent of the popular vote in 1992, he did not receive a single electoral vote.

Trying to change America’s political system by running a third-party presidential candidacy is a pipe dream.

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IMO, the point of a third party presidential candidate is not to win, at least not in the near term, and anyone who thinks it is is bound to be disappointed and frustrated. The point of a third party presidential candidate is to punish the party closest to your beliefs for being insufficiently faithful, to provide a safety valve and home for those unwilling to compromise and vote for the lesser of two evils, and to hopefully build the party base so you can better challenge the two major parties in the future. Given our current system of first past the post, the long term goal is not to become a “viable” third party, but to replace one of the major parties.

Ballot access is also an obstacle since third parties have to meet additional criteria not required of Republicans and Democrats.

Regardless of where you stand on the usefulness of third parties, every fair minded person should agree that the Republican and Democrat parties having an exalted status and “third” parties having additional barriers is fundamentally wrong.

May I suggest that we discuss this article at “The Godfather’s” website. No registration is required to comment.

Cross posted (in somewhat different form) at Independent Political Report.

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