Jack was critical of libertarians who tend to focus in one area of disagreement of the 20 areas of agreement. Well, if was just one thing I would agree. It is not I can assure you. It is multiple “things” that go all the way back to the campaign and beyond.
There is a reason why the framers of our Constitution placed the authority to declare war strictly with the Legislative Branch of government. They knew well that kings were all too willing to go to war without the consent of those who would do the killing and dying — and funding. By placing that authority in Congress, the people’s branch of government, they intended to blunt the executive branch’s enthusiasm toward overseas adventurism. The consequences of this steady erosion of our system toward the unitary executive are dire.
Here is Philip Giraldi’s take. He seems to generally concur with Patroon’s take on the causes and potential implications of the rebel war in Mali, but he reaches a different conclusion about the wisdom of intervention.
It is an all too typical situation wrapped in Washington’s ignorance that is just waiting to become the next crisis. The White House knows almost nothing about the militants in Mali and even less about what happened in Algeria. General Carter Ham, who heads the Army’s Stuttgart-based Africa Command, admits that it is difficult to get reliable intelligence about what he perhaps conveniently refers to as the terrorist “safe haven” in Mali. The New York Times notes that Washington has only an “impressionistic understanding” of the militants involved. The perceived wisdom mandating the suppression of insurgencies everywhere coupled with the belief that all militancies tend to metastasize creates a U.S. interest in Africa that might not be credible. The fall of Timbuktu to extremists who have a local agenda does not actually threaten the United States and the ability of such groups to strike the U.S. is nil, so one might well plausibly decide that Washington has no real interest in Mali at all. Based on the performance of the Malian Army, one would also have to conclude that Africa Command is possibly not worth the time, money, and effort that is being committed to it in support of an agenda that continues to be somewhat opaque.
The purge of truly limited-government activists from the Republican Party has reached new lows, as one of Wisconsin’s top activists found out.
Todd Welch, Chairman of the Wisconsin Campaign for Liberty and constitutional activist, has been “declined” membership in the Republican Party of Dunn County in Wisconsin and his dues check returned. His crime? Holding the Party accountable to its rhetoric and promises.
Here is the contact information for the Dunn County GOP. Perhaps you would like to let them know what you think of their Politburo like purges.
Republican Party of Dunn County
P.O. Box 311
Menomonie, WI 54751
Current Office (during election period)
815 6th Ave E.
This is pathetic! I actually didn’t think Norquist would cave. Sadly, I guess I was wrong.
I hope this makes Sean and the rest of the moderation caucus happy. And make no mistake about it, moderation is what this is. You can toss around the names Burke and Kirk all you want, this is not responsible conservatism or realistic conservatism or any other kind of conservatism. It is moderation. It is moving to the center. It is conceding an important element of the fight to the left.
I want to know how Sean and Gallupo and the rest of the gang think it strengthens the Republicans’ hand to cave rather than to go down fighting! Obama stood tall and Boehner and Norquist et al flinched. That’s what people are going to see, and that’s what happened. This makes Obama look large and in charge and Boehner and Norquist look like a bunch of (I’m just going to say it) groveling bitches.
I’ve got news for Boehner, Norquist, and company. All revenue bills MUST originate in the House. The House is controlled by Republicans. The way to tackle this fiscal cliff issue is to repeatedly pass bills making the current tax rates permanent, and let the Dem controlled Senate and the President whine about it. But don’t send then any bills that raise taxes. No tax increase gets to the Senate and the President unless the Republican controlled House sends it to them. Then when we go plunging over the fiscal cliff (which does what the moderation caucus wants anyway – raises taxes and cuts spending ) scream from the rooftops that the Dems forced a tax increase despite the best efforts of the Republicans to hold the line.
Ask yourself this, how do you think Ron Paul is going to vote on “Plan B.”
If the Constitution Party is smart, they should start writing up the press releases now: “Republicans Raise Taxes!”
And for those who decry outside influences holding the GOP hostage, one huge reason why the GOP sees the fiscal cliff as intolerable is because it would cut defense and make the defense contractors unhappy. So again, I hope you’re happy. The anti-tax lobby takes it on the chin and the defense lobby wins.
We at Conservative Heritage Times have been inspired by the TAC symposium to do one of our own, although one with more of a paleo edge. I’m actually not sure symposium is the best characterization of this. It is a virtual symposium I suppose. But I’m going with it because we are blatantly riffing (not ripping :-)) off TAC’s effort.
Not all the people here would be best described as paleoconservatives, and some would not claim that label, but the attempt was to try to get people who might be considered part of the paleo/traditionalist sphere. I asked CHT’s own contributors, plus people I know (both actually and virtually) whom I thought would represent a broad cross section of the paleo/traditionalist sphere, plus some of our regular commenters. Other of our regular commenters volunteered their services.
In order to avoid the appearance of favoritism, I have arranged the contributions in alphabetical order by first name. I am still expecting some more to roll in. They will be added in their appropriate alphabetical order as they do. Please check back frequently and please promote this on Facebook, Twitter, with you email contacts, etc. Thanks, enjoy and discuss. The endorsements commence below the fold. ~ Red
My uncle, God rest his soul, said to me once the only time he ever voted for anyone in any election was for George McGovern in 1972. I suspect there are lot of people around like my uncle, not single issue voters but single person voters. McGovern’s recent death reminded me of this, and I’m sure there are others who remember their first and only votes for Goldwater or Stevenson too. Maybe even a Perot. Losers can make a difference in politics if they inspire others but who they are and what they stand for. I guess for myself Ron Paul these past years will have to foot that bill. But like the aforementioned, he too is making the same kind of impact politics which goes beyond the spoils of office. Indeed, in two weeks you’ll find many a write-in vote for Paul which will exceed those of several non-major parties fooling themselves by running for President.
Because both the candidates are interventionist clowns. Although it is telling that Romney toned down the usual chest thumping rhetoric that he normally feeds to his “conservative” audiences. I think Romney and his advisers know that that crap doesn’t sell to undecided voters. This is every so slightly hopeful.
Here is an essay by Brian LaSorsa from Huffington Post, “Is a Vote for Ron Paul a Vote for Obama, or the Product of a Disenfranchised Right?”
In the end, though, we have meaningful questions to ask: are third-party voters betraying the Republican Party, or are these voters a product of the Republican Party betraying the ideals of small government? And, even if Ron Paul were to swing the election, is it possible that conservatives and libertarians are so disenfranchised that their symbolic votes of displeasure have become more important than winning a race to the White House?
The author, Brian LaSorsa, is listed as an intern at FreedomWorks. He might not be after they see this. FreedomWorks has tried to serve as an organizing force for the TeaParty, but it is reliably Republican.
I don’t know that much about the structure of American Vision, but I assume I am correct to call Gary DeMar Joel McDurmon’s boss.
Anyway, Gary DeMar recently wrote a tired apologia attempting to make the case for why Christian conservatives should vote for Bankster/War Party Candidate B so that Bankster/War Party Candidate A won’t get another term. I replied to his article here.
So I was a bit surprised to see this Sept 25th post by Joel McDurmon which might not make the boss too happy. McDurmon links to a Mediaite column that is critical of a couple of Breitbart columns imploring Ron Paul supporters and libertarians to support Romney in the name of stopping Obama. The Breitbart columnist even had the audacity to invoke the Constitution when mainstream “conservatives” spent the whole primary calling Paul and his supporters bad names for actually wanting to follow it. While McDurmon doesn’t explicitly call for Paul supporters to vote third party or write in Paul, he linked to an article that is clearly hostile to the idea of voting for Romney. McDurmon recently wrote a book on the Bible and war that may explain his seeming sympathy for Paul.
What is so baffling about Gary DeMar’s refusal to consider third party voting is that Reconstructionists similar to DeMar have been the most likely to make the case for a Christian voting ethic that precludes simple lesser of two evils considerations (William Einwechter, Doug Phillips, Michael Peroutka, John Lofton). Also, Reconstructionists make up a disproportionate share of the Constitution Party.
Hopefully McDurmon’s good instincts will rub off on DeMar with time.
Here is Ron Paul’s take on the fiasco in Libya. This man is so wise. Too bad GOP primary voters didn’t see it that way.
The attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya and the killing of the U.S. ambassador and several aides is another tragic example of how our interventionist foreign policy undermines our national security. The more the U.S. tries to control the rest of the world, either by democracy promotion, aid to foreign governments, or by bombs, the more events spin out of control into chaos, unintended consequences, and blowback…
…There is danger in the belief we can remake the world by bribing some countries and bombing others. But that is precisely what the interventionists – be they liberal or conservative – seem to believe. When the world does not conform to their image, they seem genuinely shocked. The secretary of state’s reaction to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was one of confusion. “How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction,” she asked.
If one is concerned about about Jesse Benton moving over from Ron Paul’s campaign to Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell’s, I would advise you to forget Jesse Benton, who, if you believe Penny Langford-Freeman, is a buffoon who many members of the Paul “family” consider the sap of the tree.
But even the black sheep are useful if you have strict, defined roles for them to carry out and for Jesse that’s being an intermediary between the Pauls and the media and others persons outside of the “Family”, which is basically what he did for the 2012 campaign. He decided who got access and who didn’t, sort of a castle guard if you will as Tom Woods and Adam Kokesh and others found out to their chagrin. And it allows the media to see him as the fellow in charge (even though he never was “officially” campaign manager) and see the Pauls as a family operation while the real decisions were being made by Rand, Trygve Olson and John Tate and Debbie Hopper. Indeed if you believe Langford-Freeman, Jesse’s role was basically to speak out loud whatever Olson would whisper to him. Olson, whose former role in the politico-intelligence field was destabilizing governments, probably prefers working incognito, being the power behind the throne than having a public role. If you understand this then you’ll understand Benton’s usefulness in being a front man.
It’s not as bad as McCain’s Gulag of 2008 of the 2012 version of the Republican National Convention isn’t much better from a Ron Paul delegate. From the new rules passed which try to limit grassroots activism to the expulsion of legally elected delegates, Republicans have basically shown they don’t care if the millions of Ron Paul voters gathered over the past five years vote for Mitt in the fall or not.
If would not have cost Mitt or the RNC much if they had allowed the Paul delegates to be seated and his put in nomination (after all Mitt had over 2,000 delegates voting for him). Since the voting occurred on the first day of the convention instead of the third (and deliberately so) and out of prime-time, nothing more would be thought about and nothing said. Romney would have won anyway, the Paul delegates would been satisfied and the convention would go on to proceed as normal. That measures were taken not only to NOT give Ron Paul a moment in the sun but to make sure no such candidacy like his in the future can ever take place smacks one of paranoiac fear. For a party that backs devolving the power of the Federal government down to the state and local levels to concentrate its own power in Washington D.C. is truly an amazing admission of hypocrisy, their own views apparently not good enough to govern themselves.
These last few weeks and even moths have been a boon to Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson. By abandoning the GOP Presidential nomination race, knowing full well his candidacy would be smothered by Paul’s, Johnson has positioned himself to take up Paul’s mantle at least for the fall campaign (At least for half of Paul’s supporters. The other half will stay loyal to Rand and the GOP).
Of course it’s easy to say Johnson supporters will find out in early November what Paul supporters found out in late August, the system is rigged against you no matter which path you take. But Paul would have never have created a movement of millions of voters without at the very least competing in the Republican primaries of ’08 and 12 and Johnson may well carve out a niche for himself too this year. If he’s able to break the LP record for votes (held by Ed Clark 1980), if he’s able to get a decent percentage (5% would have them dancing in the aisles) and if his vote totals in states like Nevada, Colorado, Iowa and New Hampshire are big enough to cost Romney wins in those swing states, then he can make the plausible argument the LP has a potential future with young voters (presumably Paul’s voters) while GOP still has it’s generation problem.
Johnson’s numbers may well prove to be the most interesting thing to watch this November and if they turn out well for him then Mitt could will be muttering to himself on Election Night: “I should have let them have those Maine delegates.”
Political conventions in this day and must be hell on reporters looking for actual news to write about instead of being on a week-long junket. But a enterprising political reporter (the exception being Dave Weigel, who will be too busy making love to Jesse Benton to report on anything useful) looking for a story at the upcoming GOP convention in Tampa (presuming it goes off with being disrupted by a hurricane) will find it covering the Ron Paul Movement because it will be in Tampa that movement will more than likely split itself in two.
The Republican Party establishment and the Romney campaign are doing their level best to keep out Paul delegates from the convention. That was to be expected. What was not expected was Romney Campaign being aided and abetted by the Paul Campaign. By agreeing to a deal to split the Louisiana delegations between Romney, Santorum and Paul instead the of the plurality Paul delegates would have had (and may well have been upheld by the RNC), the “official” Paul campaign took away the one state which would have given it the five states and or territories needed to nominate Paul from the floor of the convention (which would have given him an unscripted 15 minute speech as well). With the Paul campaign actively discouraging its delegates from trying to nominate Paul anyway and also look good for the cameras, it’s obvious that the game is up as far as the campaign goes.
According to Giraldi, Johnson is an Obama supporter. All the “conservatives” who support foreign interventionism should note how Johnson’s interventionism naturally springs from his default internationalism. It makes sense, however misguided it may be. Conservatives who distrust the UN, are jealous of American sovereignty, etc. but also think America must police the world, are working at cross purposes. Their position lacks the internal consistency of Mr. Johnson’s even though they get it half right.
I do agree with one thing Mr. Johnson wrote however: “Ron Paul is one of the most reactionary candidates in recent history…” Darn right! That’s why we love him. In our sad society, enforcing the Constitution is reactionary.
That’s why Ron isn’t doing any more big rallies or really, not much of anything for pretty much two months until the RNC in Tampa despite sitting on a three million plus war chest. It’s too bad really because there were many areas to highlight differences with Romney which may have made at least some conservatives see Paul’s delegates as a potential use of leverage against Romney, perhaps reopen the whole nomination process instead preparing to go down with the ship again. Even if they didn’t like him he was there to shake up the process if needed.
WASHINGTON, DC – Congressman Ron Paul issued the following statement on the Supreme Court’s decision to uphold most of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
“I strongly disagree with today’s decision by the Supreme Court, but I am not surprised. The Court has a dismal record when it comes to protecting liberty against unconstitutional excesses by Congress.
“Today we should remember that virtually everything government does is a ‘mandate.’ The issue is not whether Congress can compel commerce by forcing you to buy insurance, or simply compel you to pay a tax if you don’t. The issue is that this compulsion implies the use of government force against those who refuse. The fundamental hallmark of a free society should be the rejection of force. In a free society, therefore, individuals could opt out of “Obamacare” without paying a government tribute.
“Those of us in Congress who believe in individual liberty must work tirelessly to repeal this national health care law and reduce federal involvement in healthcare generally. Obamacare can only increase third party interference in the doctor-patient relationship, increase costs, and reduce the quality of care. Only free market medicine can restore the critical independence of doctors, reduce costs through real competition and price sensitivity, and eliminate enormous paperwork burdens. Americans will opt out of Obamacare with or without Congress, but we can seize the opportunity today by crafting the legal framework to allow them to do so.”
There is fear out there expressed by those in the Republican Party, the Romney for President campaign, even the Ron Paul for President campaign about the behavior of Paul supporting delegates and Paul supporters in general at the upcoming GOP National Convention in Tampa.
What does Ron Paul want? Will be speak at the convention? Will he be nominated? Will his supporters be disruptive?
In the context of the modern political convention, which instead of being a deliberative body is a really a tax-payer funded love-in for the nominated candidate, this is an important question. Because these are made-for-TV events, any kind of appearance of disruption of routine party business by parliamentary wrangling of appearance of disunity is frowned upon severely. Everything is meticulously planned and scripted and any deviation from that plan could present an image problem for the folks watching about the candidate the convention will nominate.
For example, there’s talk Ron Paul could have himself put into nomination for vice-president by his delegates forcing a roll call vote which hasn’t happened at a convention since 1972. That will throw everything off schedule if it happens. Just ask George McGovern.
Given this situation, it would seem the Paul supporters would have some leverage with the Romney campaign and the party leadership. Give us what want and we’ll give you decorum. Instead negotiations seem to be happening from the opposite direction. The party seems to be saying either give us decorum or you will have no role at the convention. This is largely due to the fact the upper-echelon of the campaign, persons-like campaign manager Jesse Benton, his string-puller Trygve Olson and the man they want to work for in 2016, Sen. Rand Paul, are looking ahead and trying to make sure Ron Paul supporters and delegates don’t come off in Republican eyes like the protestors at 1968 Democratic National Convention.
The only “respect” Paul delegates at the convention should show is to the taxpayers who have the fund these Nuremburg-type rallies and make them actual democratic events again. If that means things go off schedule, so be it. Paul delegates can make history by changing again the nature of a political party convention away from spectacle to an actual gathering where there’s debate and discussion and votes, the kinds of things that actually happen in democracy. If left to their own devices I’m sure these delegates would do just that. But I am worried that biggest division in Tampa will not be between Romney and Paul, it will be between and Paul supporters and their own campaign.