Some were Deists including Jefferson, but MOST were not. Read Bradford’s book on the Founding Fathers for proof.

(1) Legal immigration is just as much of a problem as illegal immigration.

Watch the 14 minute video Immigration by the Numbers

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265

(2) Historically conservatives have opposed free trade. Just read Russell Kirk. And you have the cart before the horse. Free trade in fact makes not only the federal government larger but also international organizations, which must regulate it, and which encroach upon a nation’s sovereignty. Free trade is nothing but a type of international socialism where a few select corporations benefit at the expense of the free market and everyone else.

(3) The war in Iraq is liberal interventionism. The transformation of the Middle East to liberal democracy is Jacobin, not conservative. Ever hear of the French Revolution? Know the origin of the terms ‘right’ / ‘conservative’? They were not on the side of the Jacobins, I’ll tell you that.

(4) No, the big-government fanatics are the neocons. Kristol openly supports “big government conservatism,” which he later admitted is neoliberalism. They also support affirmative action, that Marxist MLK, and the third-world invasion of the USA.

They all are globalists, all support the third-world invasion of the USA, and all support an interventionist foreign policy.

They will posture and put on a show for the public’s benefit, but afterwards they have drinks together and laugh at how easy they can fool the public.

1. “Third world invasion”: illegal immigrants are a problem so long as they are illegal and undocumented, this is a security risk and is all around bad policy, however, we need immigrants, immigrants increase our labor force and accelerate our economic growth. Our current birthrate trends are barely above the replacement level and with the growth of federal entitlement spending we will go bankrupt without an increase in working age adults (although I also think we need to decrease entitlement program spending, medicare part D is a liberal disaster)

2. Opposing free trade means you favor more government intervention with regards to economic policy, this is liberal any way you cut it. Free trade is vital to economic growth and global competitiveness; tariffs, subsidies, and other protectionist policies are terrible and we will lose to China if we implement them (take a basic economics class for this). The trade deficit is not inherently bad but is only one side of the “current accounts” coin, the other side is that if we run a trade deficit we will run a capital surplus meaning we have more domestic investment opportunities than we have domestic investors and thus will end up having more foreigners investing in our domestic economy. Economically we are no better or worse off, ideologically (sovereignty issues?), we may be in trouble because these foreign investors control more of our economy. The answer is to incentivize less consumer consumption and more savings (perhaps privatize social security?), but the net effect is still economic growth. Read Adam Smith–A true Conservative or rather Classical Liberal.

3. Interventionist foreign policy: while this may be unsettling to some modern conservatives and traditional classical liberals, it is a reality in todays global environment. We have very important regional interests in the middle east and we have serious security and defense issues if political problems go unresolved. One basic function of government that most Conservatives believe in is a strong national defense. Well, in a world like this one, we must be somewhat proactive in order to secure the common defense, case in point: 9/11. What we really need to do is blame Great Britain for all of this since it was their disaster of a post-imperialist policy that created most of this mess (see Israel, Kuwait, Iraq, Africa, etc.)

4. Growth of federal government and return to Federalism and State’s Rights: Now we are talking, perhaps the South should have won the war! One reform: repeal the 15th amendment, no more popular election of Senators, they are not representing States in the current arrangement. DOE needs to go, grant system needs to go. Choke the beast by cutting spending. Balance budget, no deficit, persistent tax cuts, earmark reform, etc.

Finally, the real “Liberals” in the party are the “Social Conservative,” these are the real neocons who believe in increasing governmental power and intrusion in to your lives for their “moral” agenda. If this happens, wait to see the fallout when real lefties are in charge, they will take this increased government power in the “moral” arena to wreak havoc on traditional society and the “culture wars” will be lost. I believe the answer is to reduce federal power and government power in general. More freedom and liberty = better society.

The “War on Terror” is, in reality, World War 3. The war in Iraq is but a small part of the bigger picture. No effort should be minimized to target and destroy these sworn enemy fascists who are the enemy of civilization, liberty and freedom.

Inadequate pay, medical care, disabilities and other earned benefits for today’s military and for all veterans and their loved ones.

Ignoring the real economic, historical and cultural issues created by out-of-control illegal immigration. There is a real need to enforce the laws and shore up our borders, both north and south.

Lack of honesty, responsibility and accountability in government, business, media and the private sector.

The insidious spread of socialism, which is the redistribution of wealth through taxation from those who work and earn to those who choose not to but expect the same as those who do.

Destruction of founding faith in God and Judeo-Christian principles; through wide-spread slaughter of unborn children, same-sex couples demanding equal status of marriage and teaching of acceptability of its practices.

The corruption of our written and taught history and general focus on left of center socialistic teachings in our schools, governmental units and even the new age feel-good “churches”.

The ilegitimizing of our Constitution and other founding documents by courts, judges, justices and politicians.
The timidity of facing our enemies and allies eyeball to eyeball, for fear we will appear aggressive.

Richard G. Shuster
rgsjesshuster@charter.net

“shadowy characters like Howard Phillips”

I’m not sure what you mean by that. I think we all owe Mr. Phillips a debt of gratitude. He was one of the originators of the “new right,” but unlike most of the others he realized fairly early on that the movement had gone astray and visibly broke from it. Other conservative leaders should have done the same, but they stuck with modern conservatism and you can see the results. I don’t know if they could have changed things, but maybe they could have had they not been so slavishly devoted to the GOP.

I think that now Weyrich, Viguerie, and +/- Devine are having second thoughts and perhaps see the wisdom of Phillips’ early departure. I don’t want to put words in their mouths. Viguerie has been the most vocal in dissent.

My only issue with Phillips is that he remained a big defense Cold Warrior for too long.

You can’t please everybody. There is a group within the CP that believes the Party is not explicitly Christian enough.

Look at it this way. Conservatism in America and in the West for that matter is intrinsically tied to Christianity because the societies themselves are inseparable from the Christianity that molded them. Or as is the case with post-Christian Europe, Christianity is separated from the society at its peril. America was founded as a Christian society. There is no harm in recognizing that and much potential benefit. If we were unafraid to recognize that then we would need not be so squeamish in halting Muslim immigration, for example. I think rigid secularism has no place in conservatism because it is a recent development and is ahistorical.

That said, I don’t think a political party is the place for being dogmatic about highly disputed theological issues. So a conservative party in America should acknowledge the Christian heritage of this country, but should not be schismatic on doctrinal issues.

Doctrinal issue can decide where you go to church on Sunday, but a political party of any consequence needs to be broader than certain tight theological bounds.

Would that satisfy you?

The key to what you said is “front-runners.” I could not agree more that they are all “status-quo candidates.”

But Ron Paul is actually more conservative than some of the names I have heard as possible CP candidates. Importantly, he is anti-intervention and has been since the beginning. Rumor has it that Howard Phillips tried to talk Ron Paul into running as the CP candidate.

I say we should get behind Paul in the primary. If one of the unacceptable front-runners wins the nomination then we get behind the CP nominee. Paul running in the primary actually helps the CP in my opinion, just as the Buchanan campaign in ’96 had the potential to help the CP. It will create, identify and energize a block of voters who are unhappy with the status quo.

But there is no harm, IMO, with conservatives working in the GOP primary system as long as they don’t commit to vote in the general election for the GOP nominee whoever he is.

Do you mind filling us in on who might run for the CP nomination? I have heard rumors, but I won’t steal your thunder.

Write up the potential candidates, and we will post it here.

Also, please let your CP contacts know about this truly conservative site.

Couldn’t see where Jesus was voting third party, perhaps Constitution Party.

This is important to me because my Bible tells me in 1 Timothy 6:15-16 – Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

If you can show me where Christ Jesus is interested in the third party vote, i might show some interest.

IN HIS LOVE,

How about just skipping the empty threats and goind straight to the Constitution Party???

Trust me, you will sleep better and be far more happy. Its like a weight was lifted off my back a few years ago–no more biting tongues, selling out or bowing down!!!

Chris Campbell
Chairman, CP of NC