Comments on: Conservatism, Real and fake http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:09:31 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Donald Douglas http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818&cpage=1#comment-12944 Donald Douglas Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:35:48 +0000 http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818#comment-12944 CCan you help me here? I see the same post over on Mike Tuggle's page, but you don't cite him as the author? Who wrote the post? It's well done, but credit should be given where it's due. http://leagueofthesouth.net/rebellion/index.php/site/conservatism_real_and_fake/ Kuch appreciated: http://burkeanreflections.blogspot.com CCan you help me here? I see the same post over on Mike Tuggle’s page, but you don’t cite him as the author? Who wrote the post? It’s well done, but credit should be given where it’s due.

http://leagueofthesouth.net/rebellion/index.php/site/conservatism_real_and_fake/

Kuch appreciated:

http://burkeanreflections.blogspot.com

]]> By: Bede http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818&cpage=1#comment-12921 Bede Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:15:17 +0000 http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818#comment-12921 Neocons are just Trotskyites in disguise. They know, however, that such left-wing globalism does not sell, so they have repackaged it as "conservative" to a naive populace, and thus are using "conservatism" as a Trojan horse to promote their sinister agenda. Neocons are just Trotskyites in disguise. They know, however, that such left-wing globalism does not sell, so they have repackaged it as “conservative” to a naive populace, and thus are using “conservatism” as a Trojan horse to promote their sinister agenda.

]]> By: Sid Cundiff http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818&cpage=1#comment-12920 Sid Cundiff Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:47:36 +0000 http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818#comment-12920 Neocon and Paleocon have been different since the days of Whig and High Tory in 1679, and Jeffersonian and Hamiltonian in 1789. Neocon and Paleocon have been different since the days of Whig and High Tory in 1679, and Jeffersonian and Hamiltonian in 1789.

]]> By: Bede http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818&cpage=1#comment-12911 Bede Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:31:29 +0000 http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818#comment-12911 Excellent article. If I may just nitpick on one little point, I have some problems with the word 'culture' as it is largely a creation of the 19th century. Its primary meaning had always referred to agriculture, and just in the past 100 years or so (thanks to Matthew Arnold and others) it has taken on the larger connotation that we think of today. I much prefer the phrase "ancestral traditions." When Cicero speaks of preserving the Republic and their way of life, the word 'culture' (as we know it) did not exist. Rather, he spoke or preserving their "ancestral traditions." I think this gets at the heart of the matter better. Being Westerners, it is our "culture" by inheritance. It is not just some abstract set of ideas floating out there that anyone would pick up and want to defend. They wouldn't. Just look at how rapidly mestizos in Central and South America are demanding the removal of all "European elements" from their liturgies. Otherwise, great article. And I don't even really mind the use of 'culture' since it has become common parlance, but I would like to see a revitalization of the phrase "ancestral traditions." Excellent article.

If I may just nitpick on one little point, I have some problems with the word ‘culture’ as it is largely a creation of the 19th century. Its primary meaning had always referred to agriculture, and just in the past 100 years or so (thanks to Matthew Arnold and others) it has taken on the larger connotation that we think of today.

I much prefer the phrase “ancestral traditions.” When Cicero speaks of preserving the Republic and their way of life, the word ‘culture’ (as we know it) did not exist. Rather, he spoke or preserving their “ancestral traditions.” I think this gets at the heart of the matter better. Being Westerners, it is our “culture” by inheritance. It is not just some abstract set of ideas floating out there that anyone would pick up and want to defend. They wouldn’t. Just look at how rapidly mestizos in Central and South America are demanding the removal of all “European elements” from their liturgies.

Otherwise, great article. And I don’t even really mind the use of ‘culture’ since it has become common parlance, but I would like to see a revitalization of the phrase “ancestral traditions.”

]]> By: Michael Hill http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818&cpage=1#comment-12908 Michael Hill Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:49:03 +0000 http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818#comment-12908 Great article from a terrific thinker and writer. Great article from a terrific thinker and writer.

]]> By: ERIC http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818&cpage=1#comment-12907 ERIC Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:27:15 +0000 http://conservativetimes.org/?p=818#comment-12907 Good post. The biggest thing to me about the neocons is that they believe that all cultures can just melt together and get along. It doesn't work that way. I firmly believe that the beginning of the end of this country was when the south lost - the war of northern aggression or the war between the states (also called the civil war). Ever since then we have been letting more and more people from third world countries into our country and the more we let in the more we lose this country. Demographics is what it is all about. The white population in this country has dropped to 66% according to the census, and if there are 30 million illegal aliens in this country and the total population is 300 million, that's 10% of the population. I wouldn't be surprised if the white population in this country is as low as 56%. There's no way the Republican party (as it was, when it was at its peak) can win national elections with 56% of the population being white, let alone how the Republican party is now. Good post.
The biggest thing to me about the neocons is that they believe that all cultures can just melt together and get along.
It doesn’t work that way.
I firmly believe that the beginning of the end of this country was when the south lost – the war of northern aggression or the war between the states (also called the civil war).
Ever since then we have been letting more and more people from third world countries into our country and the more we let in the more we lose this country.
Demographics is what it is all about.
The white population in this country has dropped to 66% according to the census, and if there are 30 million illegal aliens in this country and the total population is 300 million, that’s 10% of the population.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the white population in this country is as low as 56%.
There’s no way the Republican party (as it was, when it was at its peak) can win national elections with 56% of the population being white, let alone how the Republican party is now.

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