Posted under Interventionism & Terrorism
All those housebroken “conservatives” who cheer President Obama when he ignores the Constitution to launch wars and smite Muslims might want to start paying attention to where this is leading:
American militants like Anwar al-Awlaki are placed on a kill or capture list by a secretive panel of senior government officials, which then informs the president of its decisions, according to officials.
There is no public record of the operations or decisions of the panel, which is a subset of the White House’s National Security Council, several current and former officials said. Neither is there any law establishing its existence or setting out the rules by which it is supposed to operate.
It’s not like this has popped up overnight without warning. The central government long ago decided traditional America was an obstacle to its quest to globalize this country and achieve world hegemony. No wonder DC allied itself with groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center to target those who oppose “abortion or immigration,” or any other item in DC’s radical agenda, as national security threats.
C’mon, people. Stop letting our handlers manipulate us into trashing our civil liberties in the name of swatting exaggerated threats. DC is the greatest threat to our freedom — a realization now shared by 49% of Americans. This is your wake-up call.
mpresley on 06 Oct 2011 at 3:42 pm #
One wonders whether, in a “traditional America,” there would be people named Anwar al-Awlaki in the first place? When a country admits anyone and everyone, and when their offspring are automatic citizens, what can be expected? The truth is, al-Walaki was a citizen in name only and should not have even been that. I do not grieve his death at all.
Traditional Americans have hitherto not been fundamentally antagonistic toward the regime. But this is likely changing as the regime abandons traditional Americans. Forget the al-Walaki’s. It is only when traditional Americans begin to revolt that you’ll know a critical mass has been attained.
HarrisonBergeron2 on 06 Oct 2011 at 5:07 pm #
mpresley,
Right. The only reason we have Anwars is because DC imported them, thanks to the 1965 Immigration “Reform” Act, a pivotal part of the Civil Rights Revolution. That’s when the power elite decided to elect a new people.
C Bowen on 06 Oct 2011 at 10:28 pm #
al-Alwlaki is more likely a product of Cold War Era programs to recruit and groom radical Muslims, and in the post-Cold War, antagonize Russia one way or the other, and generally serve Western interests. This man was invited to the Pentagon after 9/11, and appeared in a PBS documentary. He was an up-and-coming actor in the drama they were writing.
If he went rogue and they had to kill him off, or they just cut him off one day and he was left with few ‘free market’ prospects, so be it–but then just do it quietly like they did with Barry Seal on another tactic no longer needed; before we peg this as simply an ‘immigration thing’, the issue is the outlaw nature of our intelligence agencies.
RonL on 07 Oct 2011 at 4:26 am #
Are you calling for
1. an open process for a “kill or capture orders”
2. a process for a revocation of citizenship
3. the ability of American sedition, treason, violent insurrection agains the government of the US and terror and murder of other American unhindered by said government?
mpresley on 07 Oct 2011 at 10:19 am #
Al-Walaki ought never have been a citizen. The fact that foreign parents can propagate their kind in the US, and then their progeny become automatic citizens shows how little citizenship means from the standpoint of essential nationhood, anymore. Those now crying over the death of an “American citizen” show their inability to even understand what it means to be a citizen in any authentic organic sense.
HarrisonBergeron2 on 07 Oct 2011 at 1:51 pm #
RonL asked:
Are you calling for
1. an open process for a “kill or capture orders”
2. a process for a revocation of citizenship
3. the ability of American sedition, treason, violent insurrection agains the government of the US and terror and murder of other American unhindered by said government?
1. No. There shouldn’t be ANY extra-judicial killings.
2. No, I didn’t, but I do believe the central government is insane to grant automatic citizenship to anyone born here.
3. No. The US government is already engaged in terror and murder. I want it to stop, not increase.
HarrisonBergeron2 on 07 Oct 2011 at 1:52 pm #
C Bowen,
I read about him dining in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11. Very strange! It sounds like he turned on his handlers and had to be eliminated.
HarrisonBergeron2 on 07 Oct 2011 at 1:54 pm #
mpresley,
I agree with you in principle. However, since present law as it’s presently being interpreted viewed al-Awlaki as a citizen, he should have been afforded the rights of a US citizen.
The government must always be held accountable to restraints on its power.
mpresley on 09 Oct 2011 at 4:46 pm #
And I too understand the legal aspects. However, in so many respects the country is simply ruled extra-legally, and to argue so abstractly almost misses the point (one you obviously do not miss).
Think of the current ATF gunrunning debacle, or the bizarre events surrounding Waco and Ruby Ridge. These situations demonstrate that nothing much is ever new, these days.
I will close with a thought: when anyone can be a citizen no one is, and in fact the term devolves into meaninglessness.
HarrisonBergeron2 on 11 Oct 2011 at 9:21 pm #
mpresley,
I’m with you on that. We’re speeding down the same path as ancient Rome. They invented “When everyone’s a citizen, no one is.”