Brimelow: What do you think of the H1-B program?
Paul: Iâ€™ve supported that because itâ€™s legal. I know some people say they donâ€™t follow the lawâ€¦. The argument is that itâ€™s a form of corporate subsidyâ€”powerful interest groups have arranged to break down their workersâ€™ wages by bringing in temporary workers. Well, the market always works to put pressure on the businessman to spend the least amount of money to provide product. So what some may call a corporate subsidy is also a subsidy to the consumer. The consumer is the one protected in the free market. The object of labor is to push wages up as high as possible. The object of business is to get the most efficient labor at the best price. In the free market, that works out. But the problem is we have too much welfare and we have a currency thatâ€™s losing value.
Brimelow: If youâ€™re President, various interest groups are going to come to you and say, thereâ€™s a shortage of nurses or teachers or (goodness!) possibly journalists; therefore we have to have these temporary work programs to bring in labor in this area. If the labor is organized, itâ€™s going to say to you, look, the problem isnâ€™t that thereâ€™s a shortage, the problem is business doesnâ€™t want to pay higher wages. What will you do?
Paul: Well, whatever we do will be legal. Congress has to have a say, they have to pass a law, and the President has to decide to sign it or not. And I would lean in the direction of saying, if there is indeed a shortage, and this is a legal process, this shouldnâ€™t be threatening to us.
Brimelow: How would you determine that there was a shortage?
Paul: Well, I donâ€™t think it would be easy but if thereâ€™s a need and immigrants can get a job, that means thereâ€™s a shortage. If there was no shortage, they wouldnâ€™t have jobs. Obviously the companies canâ€™t fill some of these jobs and theyâ€™re looking for people to fill them.
At last, the much-awaited VDare interview with Ron Paul. I must say, I am disappointed with Ron Paul’s stance on legal immigration, as I think it is the bigger problem. In some ways, I just think Paul does not get it. Companies can fill these jobs; they just want cheaper labor. Perhaps Paul has not seen this video clip where a law firm is advising its clients how NOT to hire American citizens. His view that the “free market” is somehow going to solve this problem is at best naive.