Posted under Press Release & Sovereignty and Secession & States Rights & The South
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Date:5/23/2012
Contact: Northeast Florida Chapter
Email address: floridas_son@yahoo.com
Website: www.coolchange.net
The League of the South News Service
Florida To Hold Independence Conference
(Jacksonville, Florida) The Florida League of the South is pleased to announce its Annual State Convention to be held on Saturday, 26 May 2012.
The voluntary Union of sovereign States given us by the Founders is now a dead thing of the past. An alien class and ideology that are completely hostile to our historic way of life now rule the South that you call home. However, don’t expect an appeal to the Constitution or to common decency to stop the criminal class from further terrorizing the land.
The theme of this year’s conference is “The Only Alternative”; a three part educational strategy and will be held at the Jacksonville Public Library, West Regional Branch Conference Center, 1425 Chaffee Rd., S. in Jacksonville, Florida
With the tremendous growth and national press coverage of the League of the South as the largest “States’ Rights” organisation in existence, the League has become a recognised leader in the effort to restore liberty here at home. If you’re ready to take a stand, we urge you to join us for this refreshing meeting of liberty-minded Floridians.
Attendees will enjoy the slate of speakers for this year’s event including Dr. J. Michael Hill, President of the League of the South; Pruffula Singh, educator and speaker from Ocala, Florida; and Michael Crane, Clerk of the Southern National Congress from our sister state of Georgia. Be on hand to hear these dynamic messages, breathe a bit of un-reconstructed and politically incorrect fresh air and learn how you can personally make a difference!
Admission to the conference is free of charge. The general public is welcome and encouraged to attend. Gathering and registration begins at 10:30 AM. Seating is limited. RSVP’s to the email address above are requested.
Every man must choose for himself the path he will tread. It is human nature to seek out the easy way. That is what our enemies count on us to do. Join ranks with The Florida League of the South in Jacksonville this May 26th in our efforts to return sovereignty to Florida and our beloved Southland.
The Florida League of the South is an affiliate of the League of the South, based in Killen, Alabama, with chapters throughout the Southern States.
Feltan on 24 May 2012 at 7:24 pm #
I looked at the website. About the only thing missing to complete the picture is accompanying banjo music.
I wonder if the west regional branch of the Jacksonville public library will be able to accomodate the throngs of participants.
Regards,
Feltan
Filmer on 24 May 2012 at 8:32 pm #
Feltan, do you not support secession as a legal right?
Feltan on 24 May 2012 at 11:33 pm #
I do not.
I suppose the league missed the irony of having this meeting over Memorial Day weekend. A few hundred thousand Americans died to resolve this issue. Argue if it was just or not, argue if the original intent for states leaving the union is in the Constitution — it really makes no difference. If anything is settled law in the U.S. it is that states can’t leave the union.
The real legacy is the marginalizing of the 10th amendment. States rights were crippled as a result of the civil war, and that unfortunate legacy remains with us to this day.
Regards,
Feltan
Filmer on 25 May 2012 at 12:14 am #
“If anything is settled law in the U.S. it is that states can’t leave the union.”
Feltan, might does not make right. If states had a right to secede at the time the Constitution was ratified, which they did, then they had that right in 1861 and they have that same right today. A War that happened many years after the ratification does not change original intent.
You really surprised me with your answer. I asked it figuring I knew the answer to be yes, so I was then going to ask you what your particular gripe against the League was.
You should know that this blog is broadly supportive of the League. Harrison is the official League blogger. Paleoism in general is sympathetic to the Southern reading of the nature of the Union and the Confederate cause.
How can you support the notion of original intent but think force can somehow change that? I don’t deny that force often makes, but it does not make right.
Feltan on 25 May 2012 at 12:53 am #
Filmer,
Well, Sir, I am glad that in this day and age I can still surprise people!
I am very strongly in favor of states’ rights as I alluded to above. I think the Federal Government is essentially uncontrolled at this juncture in time. I think a reset, a rebalancing, is long over due.
However, even though I am a son of the South, I have no desire to refight the Civil War. It is a done deal. I believe that carrying on about succession as if it is really a possibility detracts from far more pernicious issues of Federal encroachment upon liberty.
I have no problem being the contrarian on this issue, even if this blog is broadly supportive of the League. I think the League is supporting a loser of an issue. You aren’t going to be taken seriously except by those already in agreement with you on the topic of succession, and you surrender legitimacy in a real fight to reign in the Federal Government’s current over reaching authority.
Regards,
Feltan
Filmer on 25 May 2012 at 1:41 am #
Feltan, you surrender legitimacy if you “carry on” about original intent in once circumstance but look the other way in another. If states had a right to secede (note spelling) in 1789, then they have that right now. Whether it is realistically feasible at this point is a different issue, but you can’t concede the philosophical/political/historical point and remain a credible originalist. I you do you become a cafeteria originalist.
Feltan on 25 May 2012 at 1:44 pm #
Filmer,
Thomas Jefferson thought that his actions on the Louisiana purchase were clearly outside the bounds of the Constitution. The founding father feared that any legal challenge would sink the entire effort. There is simply no Constitutional provision to expend funds to acquire new territory. Should we as adherents of original intent insist that we return the lands acquired by the Louisiana purchase and ask France to refund the purchase price?
I think you are being selectively indignant about activities outside of Constitutional authority. It would indeed make for more sense for you to insist on the return of the Louisiana purchase if you want to be consistent with original intent. We did not fight a war over the Louisiana purchase; there are not hundreds of thousands of war graves giving testament that the issue has been resolved by blood.
Regards,
Feltan
Matt Weber on 25 May 2012 at 7:09 pm #
The ironic thing is that a mass secession would have a larger chance of success today than it did in 1861. If a bloc the size of the south seceded, I doubt the will to fight to prevent them could even be mustered. And would the military even cooperate?
Today, secession is prevented not by guns, but by dollars. The federal outlays to the states have successfully mollified them to the point of servility.
Is someone deleting all of Savrola’s posts?
HarrisonBergeron2 on 25 May 2012 at 7:21 pm #
Matt Weber,
Don’t mind me. Just taking out the trash.
Kirt Higdon on 25 May 2012 at 10:53 pm #
I don’t think you could have secession in these days without a Soviet style collapse of the center. In that case you might have numerous successor states to the US; you would be very unlikely to have a clean division along north/south lines. The League of the South nothwithstanding, southerners seem to me overall to be more in favor of the hardline national security state than do non-southerners. I read once a shrewd observation in a science fiction novel by Niven and Pournelle to the effect that yesterday’s defeated separatists become today’s super-patriots. They feel they need to prove their loyalty.
HarrisonBergeron2 on 26 May 2012 at 12:53 pm #
Kirt Higdon,
Sadly, you’re right. I can’t find the reference, but I recall an article about a Southern legislator who convinced many of his fellow Southerners to vote for WWI to prove their loyalty to the United States.
And the Southern martial tradition has been very effectively channeled into supporting DC’s endless wars.