October
27th 2012
Morrissey’s “Irish Blood, English Heart”
Weaver

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Irish blood, English heart, this I’m made of
There is no one on earth I’m afraid of
And no regime can buy or sell me

I’ve been dreaming of a time when
To be English is not to be baneful
To be standing by the flag not feeling shameful, racist or partial

Irish blood, English heart, this I’m made of
There is no one on earth I’m afraid of
And I will die with both of my hands untied

I’ve been dreaming of a time when
The English are sick to death of Labor, and Tories
And spit upon the name Oliver Cromwell
And denounce this royal line that still salute him
And will salute him forever

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16 Responses to “Morrissey’s “Irish Blood, English Heart””

  1. Nate Weinstein on 27 Oct 2012 at 5:21 pm #

    Not my cup of tea, I suppose this music might be entertaining to an 85 year old person.

  2. Weaver on 27 Oct 2012 at 8:24 pm #

    No comments? :0

    I just learned of this song, even if from 2004. Others knew of it?

  3. RedPhillips on 27 Oct 2012 at 10:05 pm #

    Weaver, I’m not sure I get his point. He’s Irish but has an English heart? Is that a good thing? Is this about Northern Ireland?

    Royal line that still salute him?

  4. Weaver on 28 Oct 2012 at 1:31 am #

    I believe Morrissey is a Monarchist, albeit without a specific monarch to follow, who also hates how divisive Cromwell is, in addition to Cromwell being a Parliamentarian or Republican. It wouldn’t surprise if Morrissey were a defender of the Empire. At the least he probably favours political unity within the British Isles, which would be very likely athwart the EU.

    Celts in the UK tend to have animus towards England that is perhaps out of due proportion. Cromwell’s often a centre of this.

    We can be certain of this: Morrissey is patriotic and past-oriented, whatever the specifics. Identifying as English in the UK is akin to identifying as white (or worse a “Native American” in the older white sense) in the US: The Irish and Jamaicans, etc. al., may have their identity, but the English are deprived. At one time, perhaps even now, I believe there was not even a census box for “English”, though the other groups had their boxes to mark.

    It’s the nature of things that global forces throughout the world oppose the natives and flood in outsiders. Perhaps Morrissey sees the targeting of the English and wishes to fight for survival. English vs. Celt is not the true war; It’s Celt & English vs. extinction.

    I think we all here at this site have one unifying value: we’re pro-life in a deeper sense than solely abortion. Globalism and the attacks on faith and ethnicity I see as death, bringing chaos to order and tradition. There can be no values, no direction, no first principles to begin logic from without these things. Any who stand against this Death, I support. Pro-life.

  5. Nate Weinstein on 28 Oct 2012 at 4:05 am #

    So does Irish blood ever have a blood alcohol content level of under 0.30?

  6. Hawthorne on 29 Oct 2012 at 12:34 am #

    A full recollection of 90′s music would be required to place Morrissey—he was tame compared to popular (very popular) second acts in Metal (even Billboard winners–Pantera, Type O Negative in the states).

    Skrewdriver as an influence on Morrissey would be interesting…

  7. Bruce on 29 Oct 2012 at 2:51 pm #

    If I recall my 80’s-90’s pop culture, Morrissey was a homosexual icon. I seem to remember that Screwdriver was a hate-band. I mean really hate, not what the SPLC calls “hate.” What would a mix of the two look like? A band of sodomitic Nazis?

  8. Weaver on 29 Oct 2012 at 11:52 pm #

    In a culture war position like ours, of whatever position you might be holding, we can’t be too picky. If the piece of art itself is toleraby good, it should be accepted by conservatives regardless of what’s associated with the artist.

    If the man is a “Gay-Icon”, all the better: His work can’t be easily attacked.

    Another song I like, March of Cambreadth, is by a man who was born a woman.

  9. Kirt Higdon on 30 Oct 2012 at 4:10 am #

    “a man who was born a woman”

    There’s no such thing. He or she is and always has been either one or the other and it takes only a DNA test to determine which. Mutilation of genitals means nothing.

  10. Weaver on 30 Oct 2012 at 7:53 am #

    I don’t disagree, haha.

    Bruce,

    You might not know whom I’m referring to, but “what Europe needs is public Roman Baths!” One of the New Right writers, who’s, um, sexually misoriented.

  11. Tex Tradd on 30 Oct 2012 at 8:07 am #

    Bruce wrote:

    ‘I seem to remember that Screwdriver was a hate-band. I mean really hate, not what the SPLC calls “hate.”’

    Nope. Screwdriver actually is hate rock. Some distinctions are in order. The SPLC is not always wrong.

    The paleo, pro-West movement has to have a cordon sanitaire against racialists and creepy-crawlies. There has to be room for pro-Western advocates like Thomas Sowell and Paul Gottfried, but a clear rejection of goons and racial-fundamentalists. One can be pro-White in such a context without being anti-semitic or anti-minority, as Western culture has the recipe for real respect for difference and resistance to globalism.

    Peter Hitchens got it right when he wrote in the American Conservative against the BNP.

  12. Tex Tradd on 30 Oct 2012 at 8:16 am #

    As for Morrissey, he styles himself an English patriot but I think despises what the British Empire did to Ireland and England. He has taken alot of flack for mouthing off about his unhappiness about some of the ways in which immigration is transforming the land of his birth, a stance unusual for a pop star. He seems outspoken and strident about a number of things, to the point of obnoxiousness, (fox hunting, meat eating, being anti-Monarchy) but he is a gifted singer. He has a real intuition for melody and theatrics that is not to everyone’s taste, yet he is clearly an original entertainer.

  13. Weaver on 30 Oct 2012 at 10:46 am #

    I’m unfamiliar with him, but the video is impressive. I agree that he’s talented.

    I respect his stance on animal cruelty. I eat meat though, mostly fish. I have no energy otherwise even if vegetarians claim there’s enough protein without.

  14. Weaver on 30 Oct 2012 at 10:47 am #

    It’s odd that he’s anti-Monarchy and also anti-Cromwell and anti-main political parties. I guess that resolves the mystery of the song though, thanks :)

  15. Weaver on 30 Oct 2012 at 10:51 am #

    Indian vegetarianism can be taken to the extreme of fearing for the tiniest creatures. I stop with concern of more complex animals only. Animal cruelty is efficient though, and Britain, like the US, is increasingly over-crowded (can’t easily afford to be humane with so many people).

    I also don’t like Cromwell. He’s the English equivalent of our Lincoln or Sherman – divisive indeed.

  16. Weaver on 02 Nov 2012 at 8:05 am #

    Tex Tradd,

    loving something isn’t hate.

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