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The following was submitted by frequent commenter Savrola. The opinions expressed are his and do not necessarily represent the views of Conservative Heritage Times.
How Conservative Third Parties Can Win Third World Voters.
Communication is key.
Whites and conservatives don’t communicate well because they lead sterile lives.
Americans of European extraction have left their ethnic culture behind and become atomized yet differentiated particles in a sea of adversaries.
A form of racial socialism is prevalent in the U.S. because ethnicity has been nationalized.
Before a blended humanity could be created, our overlords had to oversee the management of all the varying ethnic groups into four major categories based on skin color, white, black, brown and yellow.
Once these categories were established, they began to work towards the creation of a blended humanity.
Multiculturalism not assimilation is the answer to the West’s Third World problem.
Anglo conservatives since WWII have forcibly imposed their culture on European and non-European cultures, alike. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
Whites fear multiculturalism because they have lost control of their own identity. Their culture is controlled by interlopers, their ancestors are forgotten and descendants marginalized.
Why does the White man do nothing? Because he is a White man. More precisely he is not a Teuton, he is not a Celt, Slav or a Gaul. He has no homogeneous ethnic roots, no loyalty to any particular culture.
Europeans have been mongrelized, as Wyndham Lewis suggested in his book, “Paleface.” And why shouldn’t a German-Anglo-Gaul breed with a non white to fulfill their biological imperatives?
To argue that interracial relationships ruin cultures is a waste of time because the entire purpose of the Western Powers That Be is to destroy all cultures and create a blended humanity with a single corporative culture.
Whites are often embittered towards blacks and Amerinds due to these races being used against them in a variety of ways by the contemporary media culture.
The fact is that both these races and their cultures have been under assault by the corporate media for decades and have crumbled sooner due to the fact that they are not as resilient to propaganda as Europeans are.
The answer to the problem in the short-term is to ban Satellite-Media outreach into regions of the country that are still controlled by fairly conservative legislatures.
That’s correct. Ban Clear Channel, FOX, and MTV among others, from the South and Midwest.
The second step is to appeal to minority communities while they remain minority communities.
Encourage Hispanic, Asian (and soon) African immigrants to remain true to their own language and culture.
Assist in the establishment of foreign language radio and TV stations to cater to the immigrant communities.
The Candidate/Campaign Managers Guide: How to run an outreach to Third-World Emmigrants
Like Americans they are unused to the idea of candidates willing to represent their views. They are equally uncertain about what their own views, uncontaminated by pundits and TV talking heads, actually are.
Third World Emigrants never fully identify with the nation to which they transplant themselves too.
They eschew politics in favor of patronage, seeking only to be clients of the powerful.
They are quick to detect and shun all exhibitions of weakness in politicians.
Obama’s insouciance has great appeal to the Third World Immigrant. In a basketball game, there’s no question that he could have defeated Mitt Romney, for example.
Black and Hispanic Republicans will never gain the majority of votes from their peoples, not because of their platforms, but because of their failure to project strength and power.
Republicans and conservatives are usually from the business-environment, this automatically disqualifies them from anything that has any remote resemblance to masculinity.
Herman Cain, Marco Rubio and Michael Steele connect poorly with their own peoples, because their experience in business does not come from the tradition of American-business—production and manufacturing, the kind of intrepid combination of risk-taking and hard-work that supposedly made the heroes of Atlas Shrugged, but rather middle-management and salesmanship.
They are, by nature, manipulative, socially maladapted and incompetent.
Mitt Romney, another so-called “businessman” was devoid of culture, social-intelligence and the ability to connect with individuals.
The Politician as Patron
Representative-democracy is a sham acknowledged from precinct level up. Elected officials represent party first and donors secondly. Independent elected officials are those who put donors before party.
Most limited-government candidates are simply lazy people by nature, I have found. In any case they are unimaginative and unwilling to offer a practical, itemized list of simple things they can accomplish for their constituents while serving in the legislature.
One does not have to offer free money to their constituents to get elected.
To weaken bureaucrat social and welfare-services, it is necessary to strengthen communities.
By cutting them off from the degenerating influences of American network TV and then allowing communities based on ethnicity and religion great autonomy to create jobs and positive community-moral structures, we enable them to live as our clients, rather than the clients of state and federal government.
The myth of the individual is also the lazy candidate’s best friend. Many Libertarian Party candidates, for example are atheists, would-be hedonists or members of minor denominations, is that they are wholly opposed to communities. They venerate the individual of the family.
Families are the basis of the conservative structure of ideology. Third-World emigrant families are under attack, as much as white families are. Their children are succumbing to out-dated liberal notions that not even White liberals pay lip-service to, any long—thoroughly debunked notions like Freudianism have received a second-life, thanks to our Educational-bureaucracy using these as tactics to destroy second-generation emigrant families.
Most candidates ignore this.
They make a pretense of being strict-Constitutionalists, and being above sordid politics, not because they are unwilling the sully their hands, but because they have every intention of fulfilling the Shermanesque statement, unmade, but wholly professed.
Part of the reason, Third Party candidates strike out with voters (and also, women, coincidentally) is that they portray themselves as intrepid mavericks, or average-Joe little guys.
Despite the movies you may have seen, no one actually likes an underdog. The American fondness for the underdog, is not exactly a myth, it simply is not longer possible, because the Under-Dog myth appeal to early Americans of Anglo-Germanic stock. It does not appeal to other European or non-European emmigrants who make up the vast majority of the population.
Consequently, portraying yourself as an underdog to emmigrants or citizens alike is a futile gesture.
Obviously it is not a good idea to hold an inflated opinion of one’s self, as a candidate, but one must endeavor to demonstrate assurance, confidence and coolness, to their prospective constituents.
One must attempt to act like a congressman from the 1820s. Such men were individuals of great physical power, distinguished by their ability to orate for hours, and characterized by their community’s widespread respect.
Perhaps one of Ron Paul’s close aides will someday write a book about all the wise decisions Congressman Paul made over the 10 years in congress which lead to his high profile presidential runs.
Ron Paul introduced many bills, made many speeches and had accomplished a great deal as a lone wolf. His greatest and most brilliant political victories were parliamentary, and go unheralded because they are too convoluted for the uneducated conservative’s mind to easily fathom.
Ron Paul worked hard to serve his constituents best interests.
The question in a bourgeois representative-social-democracy is not “how can I represent your views” but “what can I do for you?”
This is the question you must ask as a candidate. If you are a worthy candidate you will have thought up some ideas on how to make improvements and reforms locally without spending tax dollars.
Your problem now is to present these ideas to your constituents.
Work the churches—if you can’t work ethnic churches get out of the race, you don’t have what it takes to be a candidate, much less a representative.
Knock on every door on every street. Personal contact is of the utmost important. If no one is home leave an information packet with your personal contact # and address.
Don’t recite platitudes. Tailor your message.
Talk to the ministers, elders, store-owners, businessmen, racial-association executives in non-white neighborhoods.
The senior generation of emigrants respects power, performance and presentation.
Explain to them that as a Third Party candidate who accepts donations only from within your district, you are beholden to no party or organization and are therefore ready, willing and able to represent only your constituents.
The second generation of emigrants is either upperwardly mobile or on welfare. You can target second-generation emigrants by appealing to their Christian-bourgeois economic values which amount to ample public services at low cost.
A breakdown of your local schools expenditures alone, besides a careful listing of the immorality foisted on students within the walls of your local elementary school should have the desired effect.
Prayer in the schools is still a priority to religious-minded emigrants.
Appealing to the liberal-third generation and their NPR sensibilities is a bit more complex. The youngest generation, no matter where they place their loyalties, masks their deep distrust of the system with ambivalence. Ambivalence is good. Youth are coping with the loss of their identity and the problem of becoming wholly economic actors.
Target the misfits, campaign at AA meetings, and listen to the problems that the imprisoned and their families have with the courts, paramilitary organizations and bureaucratic social services.
Increasingly we find situations which no amount of legislation can improve. A parliamentary or legislative answer is therefore inadequate and the candidate must then resort to other means of political expression.
Craftsmanship, small-scale, high-yield agriculture and organic manufacturing bring more recognition and can engender more political support than any amount of canvassing and speeches.
A successful faction will utilize all of these methods to gain popular support.
Weaver on 24 Nov 2012 at 8:03 am #
Savrola,
I posted this awhile back: The Multicult Is Dead. Long Live the Intercult.
Thurmond and Hollings from SC were good at bringing funds back to SC – not ideological. It wasn’t “let’s cut taxes” for them but “let’s get money for SC”.
Weaver on 24 Nov 2012 at 8:12 am #
We nearly had a protectionist trade guy win as Senator for Holling’s seat. Beasley and McBride ran and had money from local industry. DeMint won though.
Protectionist trade is suddenly popular in the US now. It’s not an ideology: people just realise economics is bunk and jobs are a good thing.
pinksheet panther on 24 Nov 2012 at 1:59 pm #
This is horrible. We don’t want to “win” third world immigrants’ support. We just want to get away from them. What good is having these people vote for us, if it means turning our neighborhoods into rancorous third world slums? If you want to attract immigrant voters so badly, just join the democratic party and have as many as you want. I don’t want to encourage Hispanics to maintain their own culture of drunken driving, mobs of taxpayer supported unsupervised children, and swap meets with expired baby food. Protectionism is all well and good, but protectionism with open borders isn’t really protectionism if you’re taxing the imported third world goods but migrating in their politics, wages and culture. The whole argument from big business for these migrant workers to be here is that in order to compete with rising production in sweat shop third world countries, we have to import cheap sweat shop labor. As most conservatives can see, it is not worth destroying our civilization to save a few bucks and win a few votes, and we don’t need another Theodosian Dynasty.
Savrola on 24 Nov 2012 at 3:03 pm #
Illegals and sundry Third Worlders aren’t going to leave, because White conservatives are by nature too weak and cowardly to remove them, so we have to accept and understand that, and work around it, as I am doing.
Savrola on 24 Nov 2012 at 3:29 pm #
Weaver, I am a protectionist and will have a part of the next article devoted to the topic of protectionism in the era of automatized production.
pinksheet panther on 24 Nov 2012 at 3:30 pm #
They will never vote conservative no matter what, because they do not vote that way anywhere in the world. White conservatives are not too weak to remove them, we just have no representation willing to do so, an inherent constraint of democracy. I live in Phoenix, Arizona and believe me conservatives here are totally willing to send them packing. The way to work around it is simply to secede or find some other area we can go to live in a civilized society and fortify it. All of this will run its course naturally in the form of Balkanization. The further one gets from actually living near these third world immigrants, the more receptive they are to having them be here. It could be that the next generation of Northeasterners and Portlandians will become white nationalists of a sort(whether they realize it or not,) as these are the whitest areas of the country and only admire open borders from afar. John Derbyshire remarked about that in his review of Christian Lander’s “Stuff White People Like.”
http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Reviews/Miscellaneous/stuffwhitepeoplelike.html
Savrola on 24 Nov 2012 at 5:23 pm #
Panther, how old are you, if one may presume to ask?
pinksheet panther on 24 Nov 2012 at 7:10 pm #
Savrola, I don’t mind you asking. I’m 34.
Savrola on 24 Nov 2012 at 9:22 pm #
hmm. not too old to learn then. re-read the piece please and stay tuned for my next one.
C Bowen (Hawthorne) on 25 Nov 2012 at 12:27 am #
I am not sure ‘Zona is the place to hash this construct out, but Pink does need to reveal a few local tactics vs the GOP to advance his criticism on this piece. I cannot tell if he is against a 3rd Party Strategy, or not.
I likely lean with him that the payoff is still in the white working class under 50K, but I understand Savrola’s point that it’s clear there is nothing there, and a more realistic approach is required.
Weaver on 26 Nov 2012 at 6:29 am #
Meeting your next-door immigrant in the EU:
pinksheet panther on 28 Nov 2012 at 1:51 am #
C. Bowen – I’m not exactly for or against a third party strategy. I’m not a fan of democracy in general as a long term form of government, as people just vote more and more things for themselves until it all implodes and starts over. Looking at the third parties, if any were to seriously gain traction they would eventually have their own problems. There also is not much agreement among the alternate right when you actually get down to specifics. The fierce debates even on niche sites like this are evidence of that. I see the solution as being an eventual breakup of the US as part of “The Big Sort.” We may even end up having to escape to a new area, even another planet. It wouldn’t surprise me if the first mars colonies consisted of desperate groups looking to flee from a world gone mad.
I don’t agree with the piece because if conservatism isn’t aimed at preserving western civilization and preventing us from becoming a rancorous third world slum, it’s of no use to me. Taxes and abortion I confess I don’t much care about. Seeing once beautiful neighborhoods slowly turn into scumtowns is a dealbreaker for me.
This guy murdered someone in a house he robbed less than 2 blocks from where I live.
The thing I don’t get is why those who promote Unzism don’t just join the democratic party, since they are already advocating much of what is suggested in this article. If you think importing massive amounts of uneducated people from impoverished third world countries is inevitable and/or a neat idea, there is already a party available to you. Just join up and enjoy yourself.
Even mormons with their wacky religion were able to ban together and take over Utah to do their thing after being run out of town everywhere else. So too will we find a corner of the where we can mostly be left alone.
One of the main reasons sites like Conservative Heritage Times, Takimag and Vdare have become so popular, is because AmconMag went down the rabbit hole a few years ago. Now Unzism is even seeping in here.
Savrola on 28 Nov 2012 at 2:50 am #
I am not recommending Unzism. I’m not recommending any national strategy.
The mexicans are here. They ain’t going back except by force, and that force will not be exerted by white men.
So we work around it, knowing how weak and feeble you pennystocks investors are to our greater purpose.
Jared on 28 Nov 2012 at 1:43 pm #
This piece is garbage. The US empire is in its death throes, and when it crumbles we absolutely can – and will – establish communities and states that will preserve White/Western civilization which necessarily means policies that are unfriendly to third worlders. This whole bit about trying to work along side the third world immigrants within a third party is every bit as ridiculous and suicidal as the latest push for amnesty by much of the GOP establishment.
As soon as you take on the mentality of “well they’re here and they’re not going anywhere”, it’s all over. Like pinksheet says, you might as well just join the Democratic Party.
I sure am glad CHT put a disclaimer on this awful, defeatist article. What would be even better is if it was removed.
Pat Hines on 28 Nov 2012 at 1:58 pm #
Third worlders and illegals ARE going to leave, in fact many are already self deporting as I write. The remainders of them will be moved out, one way or another.
The Republican Party can pander to the “brown people”, which is what Savrola really means, all they want. The more they do that, the more they self destruct.
We whites are sick and tired of the replacement policies, what amounts to white genocide, in the United States. The anti-white policies, what Savrola favors, will no longer be tolerated by Christian people.
So, Savrola, say so long and head to your native country, you’re finished here.
PalmettoPatriot on 28 Nov 2012 at 3:54 pm #
Absolutely awful. Let the USA die. It’s long past being useful to my people and culture. It works against our interests now in flooding our land with Third World immigrants and preventing us from doing anything about it. I don’t want to appeal to Third Worlders, I want them sent back to their countries.
RedPhillips on 28 Nov 2012 at 5:18 pm #
I don’t agree with Savrola’s strategy for reasons I will explain below, but I do think that PP and PH are probably misreading his intent. I believe that Savrola is under the assumption that the demographic ship has sailed and we are passed the point of being able to do anything about it, such as through immigration legislation. So I believe what he is suggesting is a way to work with the new reality. If my intel is correct regarding Savrola’s racial heritage, it would be difficult for him to go back to his “native country” since at least some of his ancestors were here long before we were.
What I think he is suggesting is that conservative third party activists act more like Don Vito Corleone and less like ideologues. That we be patrons (in the old Roman sense) in exchange for votes and loyalty.
I have two issues with this. First I don’t think this is a viable third party strategy because third parties are not in a position to grant anything because they have no power. Ideological third parties have and always will appeal to ideologues. Go figure. The strategy of the ideological third party should be to turn more pragmatists voters into ideological voters. (I’m using ideologue here less in the Kirkian sense and more in the modern sense of essentially being a synonym for rigid or firmly held.) The only reasonable strategy for an ideological third party (as opposed to a centrist third party or a different coalition third party but that is for a different discussion) in our system is to hope to crash the major party closest to it and replace it such as the Republican Party did the Whig Party. But at that time it will of necessity become a broader consensus coalition party barring some sort of massive sea change of the voting public. I’m not endorsing this reality. I think it is unfortunate. I’m just acknowledging it.
If anything Savrola’s strategy would be how the GOP could win immigrant voters or more likely, how a relatively (compared to the rest of the party) conservative faction within the Democrat Party could attract immigrant voters. There is conceivably room inside the Democrat Party for a faction that is pro-family and pro-traditional values or at least not openly hostile to them, and immigrants could conceivably be a significant part of that faction, as they are often in reality more family oriented than are a bunch of dispersed by 100s or 1000s of miles by jobs white folks who preach family values.
RedPhillips on 28 Nov 2012 at 5:26 pm #
My second objection to Savrola’s strategy is that if I was interested in playing the political pragmatist game, then I would just settle into being a conservative activist inside the GOP. But I’m not interested in playing that game which is why I babble on about third parties. It’s not that I have a lot of hope that my strategy is going to work. I don’t. I am very pessimistic about the future and our political prospects. It’s more that I’m not temperamentally or dispositionally inclined to play that game. I may go down, but I’m not going down without kicking and screaming all the way.
C Bowen (Hawthorne) on 28 Nov 2012 at 9:33 pm #
The topic was “how conservative Third Party votes can get Third World votes.”
Pinksheet;
Like many “alt righters” on the net, you begin about how you don’t like democracy, and then begin to tell me “how you feel.”
That has nothing to do with the article but rather exposes, at least in my mind, muddled thinking.
The calculus may well be, how many pinksheets would we lose vs. how many Third World blocks would we gain? But instead, you wrote about how you feel.
The others don’t seem to understand that one can take votes from Third Worlders, and still send them home–they might even thank you and agree with you- if the price is right.
For alt righters, not too many Machiavellians.
Or we can keep trying the post on the internet strategy.
HarrisonBergeron2 on 29 Nov 2012 at 1:06 am #
Pat Hines,
“So, Savrola, say so long and head to your native country, you’re finished here.”
Save your breath. You’re advising Charles Manson to settle down with a nice girl and get a job.
Savrola on 29 Nov 2012 at 4:50 pm #
Indeed.
Savrola on 29 Nov 2012 at 4:55 pm #
The fact is Red, that you still have a national perspective. Yes, my strategy and tactics are intended for Third Party candidates, and yes they can be used by any candidate.
One can ride any party bandwagon, assuming one has toppled the current occupants off ofit.
I have observed these tactic in action, used by clever blonde “chiefs” on the local level. Mexican worship blondes, and these fellows were differentiated from your readers and the average Third Party candidate in that they were born in their precincts, and still resided in them, as respected citizens.