The Second War Between the States has begun

Governors of States that respect gun and property rights are openly appealing to individuals and businesses to leave high-tax, anti-freedom sinkholes such as California and New York, and to take refuge in more hospitable States, namely, in the South. And no, I’m not the only one to interpret this trend as a new WBTS. From Fox News:

Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry attempts to lure California businesses to the Lone Star state with the promise of lower taxes and fewer regulations in the latest of what’s been dubbed the second war between the states.

Here’s the larger significance: Those who do not want to live in post-American, socialist Multicultistans are moving to States that still respect tradition and liberty.

It’s the General Pemberton phenomenon: A disuniting and recombination of people into bluer and redder States. And it’s happening before our eyes.

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18 thoughts on “The Second War Between the States has begun

  1. ike


    Have you ever been to Texas? It looks like a place where you should show your passport. the government of Texas is great at marketing itself, but it rarely has ever met the hype.

  2. Kirt Higdon

    Most of what is good about Texas has nothing to do with the government and you could say that for most places. That said, there are at least two good things to say about government in Texas. There is no state income tax and the legislature meets only every other year, thereby cutting in half their opportunity to do mischief. I also understand that it is a lot easier to start or run a business in Texas compared to (for example) California because there are far fewer regulations. But I don’t know the specifics of that because I am not starting or running any business.

  3. C Bowen

    This is more Republican agitprop then conservative. Texas has one of the more Byzantine sales tax codes going that is rigorously applied to business transaction by an ancient standard (at least one unfit for modern life.) One could make a strong case for autarky there, but this idea that its a hub of “freedom” bereft of multiculturalism is backward.

    They want to take peoples land and make super corridors for Mexican trucking. All well and good, that is Texas’s business, but no need to pretend that the version of Texas being promoted is anything more than a Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio marketing campaign.

  4. Jon


    So, what is a better way to fight this war against a criminal government? Shooting, maiming? An economic war would be far more crippling to the mob in DC. Cut off their money supply and you reduce their power.

  5. Kirt Higdon

    “a Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio marketing campaign”?????

    Aren’t both those guys Floridians?

    I don’t know if the Texas sales tax code is Byzantine; like I said, I’m not running a business here. But compared to what? the Byzantine Empire? California? There must be a reason that both businesses and people are moving to Texas while many are leaving California.

  6. HarrisonBergeron2 Post author


    Almost every secession effort has had its economic imperative. One of the most urgent reasons for secession from DC is the empire’s crushing debt. Add to that disastrous micromanagement and suicidal policies, such as affirmative action and the importation of the Third World, which make running a business almost impossible, and you have a strong case for self-determination.

  7. C Bowen


    Compared to other states, probably save the major urban centers in Cali where they are on par with.

    Yeah, that reason is Texas with Gov Perry will offer all sorts of government subsidies and tax incentives to move to Texas. Their size allows them to outbid other states with hard cash (road improvements, tax abatement and so forth) and placed in districts that help the overall program. The fact that Perry got no takers suggests Cali business has already negotiated decent deals.

    A look at the state of Texas debt growth under Perry gives the game away–political power is the goal.

    Taxes then fall onto the actual employees not the corporation itself.

    Now actual ‘middle class’, in Sailer words, family formation sorts, people moving, that is a different subject.

    Jeb/Rubio are in Florida because it’s a swing state where Texas is believed safe for the time being. The Bush’s moved to Texas and got LBJ Oil Democrats to switch sides (e.g. Phil Gramm) and took over the party–that is how Ron Paul was forced out of his original district and then ran against Phil Gramm for Senate in 1984. Guess which side NY money came down on?

  8. Kirt Higdon

    Jeb Bush’s move to Florida may have been motivated by Bush family political calculations, considering that George Jr. was heir to Texas. But Rubio is in Florida because he was born there. In any event neither is marketing Texas. Jeb is lying pretty low and Rubio is mainly marketing himself.

    Texas has gained a lot in population as is shown by the gain in Congressional seats from the 2010 census – more than any other state, while New York lost seats and California broke even. A good part of this is better employment prospects and a lower cost of living and this results in large part from lower taxes (no state income tax) and a better business climate (less regulation). Being better than New York and California is a fairly easy accomplishment, but the accomplishment can’t be denied.

  9. Sempronius

    A swarm of locusts will readily change location if it finds it suitable; is this something to welcome and encourage?

    What were these companies doing during the decline of states like Cali? Were they ruminating on their patch of green, heedless of anything else? Did they try to arrest the decline? Did they perhaps contibute to it in some way?

    And how many “jerbs” will they bring to what C. Wilson calls “real Americans,” as opposed to illegal aliens?

    Perry’s record on this last point is particularly derelict.

  10. Kirt Higdon

    So what is the argument? That it is better for states to lose businesses, jobs and population? In that case, higher taxes and more regulation is the way to go and such states as New York, California, Illinois and Ohio should be the model of how state government is to be run. BTW, people are migrating to Texas from all parts of the US. It is absurd to see Texas population growth solely as a result of illegal immigration. But then I’m one of that swarm of locusts who found a more suitable location. What do “real Americans” do? Search for a less suitable location? Stay in place regardless of suitability?

  11. HarrisonBergeron2 Post author

    Kirt Higdon,

    Good point. A political entity that is losing its population along with its financial resources, yet blindly pursues tax-producers to skin them alive is, as my grandpa would have said, “Dead and don’t know it.”

    States that preserve liberty and protect private property are more resilient and are therefore better able to survive.

  12. Sempronius


    My point is that HB thinks that Texas is putting one over on Cali by poaching it’s businesses; when instead it’s abasing itself to a swinish business class for — what will turn out to be– little or nothing in return.

    The old War Between The States model is obsolete. Today the money power is greater than all the states combined. So the states have to combine against that power, not court it. And certainly not divide themselves fighting over the table-scraps that power temporarilly dangles before them.

  13. Kirt Higdon

    So all businesses belong to “a swinish business class” or represent “the money power”. I heard on the local radio this morning that a national sporting goods chain is about to open a new location in Corpus Christi. Judging from other large sporting goods stores I’ve seen, I’m guessing it would provide employment to a few dozen people as well as competition to keep prices down. I suppose we must quickly deploy some high taxes and irritating regulations to keep this from happening. If we don’t the terrorists (er I mean swinish money power businessmen) win.

  14. Kirt Higdon

    Other than direct subsidies, which I oppose, I don’t see how business expansion and economic growth can contribute to state debt. Even if there are temporary tax breaks, these expire after a time and in the meantime, the employess pay more even if it is only in sales tax since they can afford to buy more. I’m still not getting the line of reasoning that the business class is swinish and therefore we should try to surpress and discourage economic activity, especially by outside investors.

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