#Don’tStandWithRand on Immigration Flip-Flop

Sorry this is a little delinquent, but I’ve been busy and haven’t been able to get this post up. Most of you probably already know that Rand Paul stirred up a bit of a hornests’ nest when he spoke to a Hispanic organization on Tuesday where he endorsed a path to legal residence. The speech was typical pro-immigration cliches and platitudes. Intially it was reported that he had endorsed a path to citizenship, but Rand protested and said he hadn’t. What he had actually endorsed was a path to legal residence which is only marginally better. So this generation of illegals won’t get to vote for bigger government, but their birthright citizen children will. Great, we get to put off our electoral irrelevance for a few more years.

I really do not believe that Rand Paul is the master political operator many seem to think he is. The filibuster was a masterstroke of political theater, but I’m not convinced he didn’t just bumble into it. There is no way he could have anticipated what happened. I think he was primarily trying to throw a bone to his libertarian base that he had pissed off with his hamhanded handling of the Hagel nomination.

On immigration, Rand doesn’t seem to know what he has gotten himself into. The best thing he could have done politically would have been to either keep his mouth shut on the issue and let his past campaign statements stand or repeat simple secure the borders boilerplate. He should have let Rubio and the rest of his potential rivals step out in front on amnesty, then in the end (2016) he could have said he was the only one still holding the line. It seems to me that he didn’t want Rubio and company to get too far out in front of him, but at the same time wanted to split the difference. Hence, a path to legal residence vs. a path to citizenship. (A path to legal residence was actually the position that Jeb Bush endorsed in his book then fell all over himself to reject once it was published.)

There are a bunch of articles I could link to since his flip-flop has been so much discussed. VDARE in particular is ripping into him. Here are a few of the better ones.

Michael Thompson at WND documents that this is, in fact, a flip-flop for Rand

John Derbyshire takes Rand to task, and praises Ann Coulter.

Washington Watcher isn’t pleased either.

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16 thoughts on “#Don’tStandWithRand on Immigration Flip-Flop

  1. C Bowen

    Paul should be criticized from the Right of course, but to call it a typical speech, one cannot–I don’t know if this is a contrived gonzo act like the Plague Tour or anything and I recognize that the elites have gone so far to the extreme, there is a lot of ground to cover, but try to make sense of:

    “In my middle school Spanish class, my exuberance sometimes overcame my restraint and I would be asked to go to the principal’s office. My Spanish teacher would scold me,

    “‘En boca cerrada no entran moscas!’

    “Cuando no lo escuchaba, I would often be sent to the Principal’s office.

    “In those days we had corporal punishment. After a few such trips to the principal’s office, I discovered that my Spanish teacher was married to the Assistant Principal and they were getting a divorce.

    “So when I was sent to the principal’s office, I would make the decision to go instead to the Assistant Principal’s office. He and I would commiserate: Oh man she’s crazy! You’re right kid, just sit here today and go back tomorrow.

    “There is a hilarious Seinfeld episode where Jerry admits that he loves Asian women…”

  2. Savrola

    Do I support Rand’s stance?


    Is it a smart decision?

    Yes. You can’t put the iguana back in the box, so might as well feed it.

    And for serious political players (I mean myself, not Rand or you Red, Worse is Still Better.

  3. Matt Weber

    Illegals’ birthright citizen children can already vote, so what Rand proposes is no difference. You talk as though there is a chance they might all be sent home one day.

  4. RedPhillips Post author

    “Illegals’ birthright citizen children can already vote, so what Rand proposes is no difference.”

    I know. I was making the comparison between a path to citizenship (which would make those folks voters right away) vs. a path to legal residence (which wouldn’t).

  5. C Bowen


    To what extent do you think the Tancredo/neocon alliance influenced Senator Paul’s angling here? I just see a politician grabbing vacated space–which does not mean I support him, only I take RonL’s crocodile tears in stride.

  6. RedPhillips Post author

    CB, I’m having a hard time seeing the bright side of this. Sure Rand is occupying space, space that is slightly to the right of Rubio but well to the left of what any self-respecting supposed Tea Party representative would have occupied just two years ago. How is this anything but bad?

  7. C Bowen


    Everything is bad–we basically don’t exist; there is no bright side. I am, however, well past the notion that some bit of rhetoric from a politician means things are suddenly worse then they were yesterday–I’d find that indulgent.

    Senator Paul is a fascinating story who constantly reminds us that we are but a candle in the pouring down rain.

    Though from a different angle, we could analyze Tancredo whose sellout did more damage to the ‘political magic’ we both believe in, as well as crushing a serious opportunity for the CP to have a Governorship.

  8. C Bowen


    That is the narrow focus that troubles me. Interventionism created the ‘refugee scam’ which Senator Paul is actually good on. There are still battles to be fought, but people prefer the abstract for all the wrong reasons.

    The paleo right should be exploiting this gap, but instead, they are tempted by a “Tancredo”–a really solid Anglo-Celt name of course– talking about immigration.

  9. RedPhillips Post author

    CB, is it really too much to ask that at least one person remain faithful?

  10. Matt Weber

    What are they to be faithful to? Rand has never positioned himself as a Tancredo-esque restrictionist, or a Limbaugh-esque Red-Stater. Also, among young people, restriction has a bad image due to racism.

    Despite this, a reform agenda of scaling back family reunification and getting rid of “diversity lottery” and strongly curbing refugee claims might be possible. The illegal issue is polarizing but not really important, because the government is never going to go all-in to stop it with fences and such. To be honest I’m not sure we’d really want them to. Workplace enforcement is a better idea, since that’s always what Democrats claim they want to see.

  11. RonL

    C Bowen wrote
    “To what extent do you think the Tancredo/neocon alliance influenced Senator Paul’s angling here? I just see a politician grabbing vacated space–which does not mean I support him, only I take RonL’s crocodile tears in stride.”
    I don’t have crocodile tears for Ran Paul, because I never had any expectations of him. His father degenerated to the left and I saw no reason to imagine that the younger Paul would not soon follow when politically expedient.

    In the real world, there is not Tancredo/neocon alliance. The neocons are full for amenesty.

  12. C Bowen

    Both Rand and Tancredo offer checks on a refutation of the “Invade the World/Invite the World” political coalition. Tancredo was paid in blood dollars in service of the Bad Guys by making a coalition of “Don’t Invade the World/Don’t Invite the World” more difficult.

    Tancredo wrote in support of the MEK crazies settling someplace…other than next door to him I would guess. That would be like Rand Paul writing a letter in support of Sandra Fluke.

    Rand is just getting bad advice and unfortunately, because the paleo is a species removed from politics he is unlikely to receive good advice.

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