June
30th 2009
Victory in Iraq?
HarrisonBergeron2

Posted under Interventionism & Iraq

Sure — just read the headlines:

4 US soldiers killed during Iraq cities pullout

Bomb in Iraq’s Kirkuk kills 30 as U.S. troops leave

Iraq Braces for More Violence

90,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed, 4.5 million Iraqis are now refugees, and we’ve pumped nearly a trillion dollars down the Iraqi rathole, with future costs expected to bring the total to three trillion. Over 4,300 American troops have lost their lives, and 31,000 have been wounded. This is victory?

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6 Responses to “Victory in Iraq?”

  1. Weaver on 30 Jun 2009 at 10:46 pm #

    The withdrawal from the cities by U.S. forces, however, may create a void that could also be exploited by Iran. Odierno said Iranian elements “still continue to interfere inside of Iraq. They still continue to conduct training. They still continue to pay surrogates to conduct operations in Iraq. … I think they’re still attempting to interfere. They’re still attempting to have undue influence inside of Iraq. And we continue to deal with that.”

    Problems in Iraq can be blamed on Iran. Mass murdering Iranians then is next?

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    One casualty you didn’t mention: the damage to Iraqi heritage sites and items. That’s an ancient land.

  2. roho on 01 Jul 2009 at 1:45 am #

    So, Where is that POTUS that was against the war?

    Once they are crowned, Empire is all that they know.

  3. Mike on 02 Jul 2009 at 1:17 pm #

    “Once they are crowned, Empire is all that they know.”

    Ain’t that the truth?

    I was on the Mike Collins show, a local NPR talk show here in Charlotte, presenting the Southern view of the WBTS and the League’s goal of self-determination, when one of the guests, a State legislator from western NC, butted in to say, “Anytime the people don’t like what their elected officials are doing, they can choose new ones at the next election.” I responded that yes, they could choose the other party of big government and big business.

    Elections are meaningless, as Obama is abundantly demonstrating.

  4. Weaver on 02 Jul 2009 at 6:26 pm #

    “Elections are meaningless, as Obama is abundantly demonstrating.”

    Mass democracy shouldn’t be our source of legitimacy. We should at the least consider the original voting standards the states once held.

    “Problems in Iraq can be blamed on Iran. Mass murdering Iranians then is next?”

    Just to be clear: I meant that blame can be put on Iran – not that Iran is actually to blame. Though… even if it were to blame, it wouldn’t be cause for America’s involvement.

  5. HarrisonBergeron2 on 02 Jul 2009 at 7:51 pm #

    Weaver,

    No, mass democracy is mobocracy, as Hoppe has argued. Only taxpayers should be able to vote. I do believe Mr. Jefferson would approve.

  6. roho on 04 Jul 2009 at 4:00 am #

    And how long has our “Democracy Experiment” lasted, compared to centuries of “Theocracy”?
    Makes ya wonder?

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