September
27th 2009
Posted under The South
Robert Stacy McCain lets Andrew Sullivan have it for his anti-Southern rantings about the murder of a part-time teacher and census worker in Kentucky. McCain promises to travel to the scene of the crime and do some actual fact-finding, something the opinionated Sullivan deems unnecessary — after all, it is the South, right? Hit McCain’s tip jar so he can afford to do this story. Think of it as hitting Sullivan, who’s clearly the number two most pompous pseudo-conservative on the ‘net.
Number one is still secure.
Americaneocon on 27 Sep 2009 at 4:47 pm #
Hey, I know R.S. McCain personally. He’s a good guy, and he’s no paleocon isolationist. So, why is it that you’re quoting him so approvingly? I’m sensing some supreme inferiority combined with unbridled hypocrisy. Maybe hitching yourself to McCain makes you feel better, no?
But, of course, that’s par for the course for antiwar leftists.
Americaneocon on 27 Sep 2009 at 5:14 pm #
Well, I just found this as it relates to Old Reb’s fawning attraction to R.S. McCain (who recall, is no paleocon):
“Robert Stacy McCain, a blogger of widespread fame and dubious medical knowledge, linked to a neo-Confederate site called Old Rebel in a post he wrote which was designed to illustrate his willingness to engage with people he disagrees with, which would of course stand in stark contrast to noted smear merchant Charles Johnson. Or as McCain (ironically it turns out) put it:
My willingness to consider the arguments of people with whom I do not always agree is deeply implicated in my imbroglio with the Mad King of LGF, whose totalitarian theory of Charles Johnson supremacism does not permit him to tolerate the presence of anyone he suspects of doubting his theory. His protestations of his own “tolerance” are just so many more self-serving lies that Charles tells himself to justify his sadistic cruelty toward those who dare disagree with him.
A fair point that I would think could be made without linking to a man who thinks Republican support for the 1964 Civil Rights act was wrong (now we darkies are drinking from the Whites Only fountains!) and is calling for secession, but I could be wrong and it really isn’t my business who he links to.
But the real story begins when said Old Rebel drops into the comments on that post recycling a paragraph that he’s used both on his blog on and no doubt all over the web where he yammers on about neo-cons (Jews), lefty atheists, and “War Fetishists” which is a term he uses frequently to describe avant-garde political blogger Great Satan’s Girlfriend. We know this because in his comment and on his blog when he uses the term he links to G.S.G.F’s front page. This too would have been inconsequential except that G.S.G.F was not allowed to respond. I know this because I keep up with the blogger, who I blogrolled when I first came across her because I frankly like to see something different on this big, boring Internet. But even if I didn’t I’d know now because McCain petulantly announced he wasn’t going to let her respond on a separate blog post.
I say petulantly, but I could also call the post childish, heavy-handed, and snobbish.”
Read the whole thing … “Hate Mail! Neo-Confederate Stacy McCain Groupie Calls Me Depraved Chickenhawk”:
http://www.red-alerts.com/just-plain-foolish/hate-mail-neo-confederate-stacy-mccain-groupie-calls-me-depraved-chickenhawk/
P.S. I’m not going to say that rejecting the 1964 Civil Rights Act is racist, but for one always yammering against allegations of racism, your pro-seccessh positions look patently stupid.
HarrisonBergeron2 on 27 Sep 2009 at 5:23 pm #
Americaneocon,
I quote McCain because he’s a proud Southerner standing up to the anti-Southern, pseudoconservative Andrew Sullivan.
I know many good people who’ve backed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for various reasons. Many have changed their minds. Many more will eventually change their minds, too. It’s happening now.
As I’ve said before, a great shakedown is coming as the politically correct/globalist empire intensifies its war on heritage, both at home and abroad. The old alliances are crumbling, and it’s only the beginning. The greatest threat to our lives, our liberties, and to the survival of our proud traditions is the DC empire, and folks are catching on. We’re tired of being used by a regime that despises and exploits us. Time’s up.
HarrisonBergeron2 on 27 Sep 2009 at 5:28 pm #
Americaneocon,
If you think McCain’s a nice guy, why are you publicizing a web site attacking him?
With friends like you …
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Filmer on 27 Sep 2009 at 5:46 pm #
Robert Stacy McCain is what I would call paleo-sympathetic. I know he has been critical of the War effort. Whether he was opposed to the Iraq invasion initially I don’t know, but I think he did. He tries to keep good ties with movement types so he tends to downplay foreign policy because he knows it is contentious. So he talks up Levin and Rush against RINO attacks, for example, but he doesn’t dis paleos.
Filmer on 27 Sep 2009 at 6:18 pm #
Here is RSM on the Iraq War.
“My opinions of U.S. foreign policy, especially in the most recent Iraq war, are nuanced. It is my staunch belief that no nation ever benefited from military defeat and that the unquestioned invincibility of American arms ought to be the greatest security of our peace. Yet it is also my belief that Falkland’s great conservative dictum—“When it is not necessary to change, it is necessary not to change”—might also be applied to Arab despotisms. If we wish to overthrow vicious dictatorships, why not begin 90 miles from Key West? Cuba is an island, our Navy is up to the task, the Marines are ready, and such of the occupation troops as were not content drinking rum and Coca-Cola with the local jiniteras could take their weekend R&R passes in Miami.”
Here is the article the quote came from.
http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/question_the_timing1/
The man may not be a purist paleocon, but he is no neocon.
And Dr. D. deserves some credit for being on the right side against Charles Johnson who is both wrong on the issues and temperamentally unsuited for the role of conservative leader.
HarrisonBergeron2 on 27 Sep 2009 at 7:52 pm #
Filmer,
Exactly! A lot of people who supported the war never bought into the Neocon fantasies about nation-building. The Neocons, like the leftist primordial slime from which they evolved, despise tradition and culture as accidents of history, thus their adherence to left-wing tenets of universal equality. Smash traditional institutions, and man’s natural equality and unity can flourish. Of course, as the bloodiest regimes in history have shown us, people need those institutions, and wither without them.
Kirt Higdon on 27 Sep 2009 at 11:53 pm #
Probably tangential to the main discussion, but RSM is quite wrong that no nation ever benefited from military defeat. Defeat in a colonial war is far preferable to a fight that drags on and on with consequent drain of blood and treasure. Examples of this are almost too numerous to mention, but just take Vietnam as one. US defeat and withdrawal from this war defused a nasty low level civil war which was developing in the home country, saved the demoralized conscript army from disintegration and created the (all too short-lived) Vietnam syndrome which discouraged other costly and pointless military adventures for awhile. It would have been of even more benefit to the US if Nixon had permitted defeat sooner, more benefit yet had the fight never been engaged.
roho on 28 Sep 2009 at 12:06 am #
Under no circumstances, can I raise my voice against a man that supports the “Crimson Tide”?………………….Roll Tide!
Check back with me in the spring.
Americaneocon on 28 Sep 2009 at 2:24 am #
” …. thus their adherence to left-wing tenets of universal equality.”
Actually, Old Rebel, the notion of “universal equality” is not a leftists or a neocon invention. It goes back to divine rights, and perhaps even to Plato and Aristotle in their claims that man (mankind) could apprehend universal, eternal truth as it exists in the cosmos.
I couldn’t give a rats ass for what the stupid blog above said about R.S. McCain. I found that it didn’t make you look so hot, and of course, the more dribble from your mouth about equality makes any earlier comments I’ve made all the more appropriate.
Folks should give you a really wide berth.
HarrisonBergeron2 on 28 Sep 2009 at 3:17 am #
Americaneoncon,
Interesting. So you don’t care who gets hurt, as long as you can belittle me.
I’d say you’re the one folks should give a really wide berth to.
Filmer on 28 Sep 2009 at 3:37 am #
Dr. D., what blog above are you referring to? The blog I linked to was an article by RSM himself? Not what someone had said about RSM.
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