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James Antle asks in an article today at VDare:
Should the paleo movement support the congressional Republicans who stopped amnesty for illegal immigrants? Or should it jettison them because of their near-unanimous support the war?
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Do paleos support a peace candidate like Gary Johnson who favors open borders? Or do they back someone like Tom Tancredo, who is a stalwart on immigration but speaks casually of bombing Mecca?
It is unfortunate that one must choose between the two. As Steve Sailer has pointed out, “invade the world” is almost always followed by “invite the world.” But if one must choose between (A) a pro-war/anti-immigration candidate versus (B) an anti-war/pro-immigration candidate, then I’d opt for A. And here’s why. Whatever damage irresponsible Wilsonian nation building around the world can do to the U.S. (e.g. bankruptcy, backlash, casualties, etc.) at least it’s temporary. At least in theory we can at some point in the future change course and undo some of the damage. The effects of immigration, however, are irreversible. Demographics are destiny. Once the U.S. demographically becomes Brazil, that’s it. There’s no going back.
Bruce on 25 Mar 2010 at 11:31 am #
Agree with Bede. A. is an existential issue. Existential issues come first.
RonL on 25 Mar 2010 at 4:17 pm #
Sadly since 9-11, the Paleo movement has been focussed almost exclusively on the war. It is nice to see some sanity.
Weaver on 25 Mar 2010 at 8:46 pm #
Shame we can’t pursue option C (anti-both) as easily, but yea Bruce has it pegged.
RedPhillips on 26 Mar 2010 at 3:15 am #
CC, you are a perfect example of why Antle was right when he said white nationalism is a moral dead end.
Kirt Higdon on 26 Mar 2010 at 3:23 pm #
To me, the two deal breaker issues are abortion (including such other life issues as fetal experimentation) and US wars of aggression. I don’t favor immigration restrictions other than those necessary to keep out criminals and like types, but to me that is a quality of life issue rather than a life issue. Hence, I have no problem voting for anti-war restrictionists like Dr. Paul or Pastor Baldwin, but would not vote for a militarist buffoon like Tancredo.
As a footnote, I didn’t realize that Captainchaos was Jewish and not just your average Jew, but a hard line Zionist West Bank rabbi. You learn something new every day.
Matt Weber on 26 Mar 2010 at 3:50 pm #
Option A is much more palatable to me. Immigration law is in serious need of a revision.
Bruce on 26 Mar 2010 at 4:10 pm #
I thought captainchaos was played by Dom Deluise? I keep picturing a short, fat, bald Italian guy.
RedPhillips on 26 Mar 2010 at 7:01 pm #
CC, you are an agent provocateur and it wouldn’t surprise me a bit if you are an informant for the Feds. You spew bile about killing people (“horizontal or vertical” ha ha how clever) on websites to attract and stir up the mentally unstable. Who you may then rat out to the Feds. At the least you are making their job easier.
If you really cared about culturing white consciousness and identity you would be posting on mainstream conservative sites in a stealthy manner, not hijacking threads on a paleo website with your ever more hysterical rantings?
Captainchaos on 27 Mar 2010 at 6:25 pm #
No Red, not a Fed. I just don’t sugar coat the message. And I could as easily accuse you of being a system-tool in that you don’t give the full truth, and nothing but, to the people. Probably just a difference in temperaments on our parts.
P.S. Whenever you feel some residue of this age’s liberal brainwashing tugging at your ‘conscience’ review Deuteronomy and you will recall you have absolutely no excuse in going to the wall for your people.
RedPhillips on 27 Mar 2010 at 7:28 pm #
CC, like I said, go to a mainstream conservative website and stealthily insinuate (if that is possible given your propensity for sledgehammer rhetoric) white consciousness there. You would do your cause much more good. But don’t come around here advocating killing people.
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