AZ Immigration Bill and Racial Profiling

Many bloggers have  suggested that the Arizona Immigration Bill entails racial profiling, and many immigration restrictionists have bent over backwards to argue it does not entail racial profiling. Frankly, I do not care if it does entail such profiling. As most of you know, the Latin etymology of ‘nation’ implies link by blood; the traditional understanding of a nation, one rooted in the extended metaphor of the family, implies that compatriots are supposed to look alike and that you should question the status of those who do not resemble you. Thus, in the traditional understanding of a nation – you know, the type that has existed for the last 3,000 years – there would be nothing wrong with ethnic profiling. Only under the modern, left-wing propositional state would anyone find fault with a type of “profiling” that has existed since the beginning of human civilization. The tendency toward this profiling (which is probably sociobiological) of in-group vs. out-group is completely normal by historical standards. It seems rather utopian for conservatives to oppose it.

On a related note, I find it confusing that proponents of localism – both at this site and elsewhere – would find fault with this legislation. Localities will differ from each other on how they want to govern themselves. It is quite natural for localities to want to police who can and cannot be there. To seek to overturn local initiatives by an appeal to an abstract position of individual liberty, one could rob a locality of the basic function of self-preservation. One might end up usurping localism in the name of (Enlightenment) abstract principles. This self-destructive ennui in the face of a workable solution, unfortunately today endemic to the West, must be extirpated.

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10 thoughts on “AZ Immigration Bill and Racial Profiling

  1. James Matthew Wilson

    You linked to my essay above; but I do not oppose the Arizona legislation. Further, I believe that the States should be able to maintain their own borders, if they so feel the need. Is there an FPR editor who had condemned this legislation?

  2. Bede Post author

    Sorry — I deleted this post and reposted it. I had linked to the wrong articles in the previous version of this article (links that were in the pingbox of another article), which is why I deleted it and reposted it without links.

  3. Montana

    Arizona can pass race base laws, pass Birthers laws and the state can continue to boycott Martin Luther King Day, well the rest of the Country can boycott the state of Arizona and spank them where it hurts them the most their pocket book. Their phony patriotism is sickening, they are just racists going by another name. We all know you are just itching to put a sheet on their head? Let’s face it the Republicans had eight years to deal with health care, immigration, climate change and financial oversight and governance and they failed. It appears that the Republican Party is only good at starting wars (two in eight years, with fat War profiteering contracts to friends of Cheney/Bush) but not at winning wars as seen by the continuing line of body bags that keep coming home. The Republicans party will continue turned inward to their old fashion obstructionist party (and their Confederacy appreciation roots) because they continue to allow a small portions (but very loud portion) of their party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” to rule their party. I will admit that this fringe is very good at playing “Follow the Leader” by listening to their dullard leaders, Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, Savage, Sarah Bailin, Orly Taitz, Victoria Jackson, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the Blowhards and acting as ill programmed robots (they have already acted against doctors that perform abortions). The Birthers and the Tea party crowd think they can scare, intimidate and force others to go along with them by comments like “This time we came unarmed”, let me tell you something not all ex-military join the fringe militia crazies who don’t pay taxes and run around with face paint in the parks playing commando, the majority are mature and understand that the world is more complicated and grey than the black and white that these simpleton make it out to be and that my friend is the point. The world is complicated and people like Hamilton, Lincoln, and Roosevelt believed that we should use government a little to increase social mobility, now it’s about dancing around the claim of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the biggest tax increase in American history and as a result federal employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism and superstition. For a party that gave us Abraham Lincoln, it is tragic that the ranks are filled with too many empty suits and the crazy Birthers who have not learned that the way our courts work is that you get a competent lawyer, verifiable facts and present them to a judge, if the facts are real and not half baked internet lies, then, and only then, do you proceed to trial. The Birthers seem to be having a problem with their so called “facts”. Let’s face it no one will take the Birthers seriously until they win a case, but until then, you will continue to appear dumb, crazy or racist, or maybe all three. I heard that Orly Taitz now wants to investigate the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC), she wants to re-establish a family values party, that’s like saying that the Catholic Church cares about the welling being of children in their care, too late for that.

    [Editors' Note: This thread has nothing to do with birthers and, as far as I know, none of the bloggers at this site are birthers.]

  4. Kirt Higdon

    A localist should have no problem then with local communities ordering their police forces not to inquire into anyone’s immigration status. But this sort of local initiative is explicitly forbidden by the Arizona law and is roundly condemned by all of the anti-immigrationists.

  5. Matt Weber

    Any illegal immigration law is going to be considered racial profiling because illegal immigrants are overwhelmingly of one particular race. It’s a red herring.

  6. Sean Scallon

    Arizona can do as it pleases within the context of the law. I’m certainly not in favor of the Feds usurping that authority, especially in light of a problem they refuse to deal with. However, if someone asked me what my own personal opinion was, I would say I like some aspects of the new law and some I do not. If lived in Arizona, I would support to change those aspects.

    It would be nice if the U.S. still resembles the aspects of the definition of nation so that there would no question of “profiling” Unfortunately, this is not a nation per say but many nations, which needs an all controlling government to keep it together. This is what is happeing in Arizona. This is the reality.

  7. Montana

    G:

    Thanks for the laughs, the Arizona Republican Party is at the mercy of the Tea Party / Bither/ Blowhards Conservative that said nothing and did nothing while Bush and the Republican Congress were getting the country into deeper and deeper trouble. The conservatives who organize the Tea Party/ Bither protests sat on their hands and did nothing. They did nothing when the balanced budget was destroyed by Bush, nothing when Bush exploded the deficit, nothing when Bush cut taxes instead of raising them to pay for the two wars he started. So honestly who cares what your small group says or wants you are a bunch of phonies who came late to the party, game over.

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