Is Nikki Haley just another neoconservative?

There has been much buzz recently about the Indian Nimrata Randhawa Haley (AKA, “Nikki” Haley) running for governor of South Carolina. While some maintain that she’s a type of “constitutionalist” (whatever that means), others say she’s another neocon plant trying to capitalize on the tea-party movement. The fact that her three biggest promotors are Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney and Bill Kristol does not bode well.

And the fact that Nimrata has remained rather silent on the immigration issue (other than vague platitudes such that she’s for legal immigration but against illegal immigration, combined with the “we’re a nation of immigrants” claptrap) may speak volumes.

Patrick Cleburne writes:

Something of the sort has happened in South Carolina, where State Representative Nikki Haley has withstood not one but two self-proclaimed lovers surfacing to hugely widen her lead, polling 49% in last Tuesday’s Primary and only narrowly being forced into a run-off.

This may appear amusing, but actually it is very bad news. Haley’s main opponent, Congressman Gresham Barrett, has an excellent A+ NumbersUSA Career ranking (equal top in the delegation with Senator DeMint). Furthermore he has been running ads advocating an Arizona-style immigrant enforcement law for the state.

Immigration damage is a serious economic problem in South Carolina, with area Agribusiness in its piggish way encouraging such a large influx that the University of South Carolina has actually documented the depression of wages it has caused.

Haley, although married in a Methodist church, is the daughter of Sikh immigrants. The Indian immigrant community is famously breaking left as it activates politically, and is a huge beneficiary of Affirmative Action as well. The prognosis is not good.

Will Gresham Barrett have the brains to play the immigration card?

It may be difficult for Gresham to do so, now that big guns like Bill Kristol are trying to muscle him to drop out of the primary.  And speaking of Kristol and lobbying, one might add that the “Indian lobby” in recent years almost has been as active as another anti-Western ethnic lobby I can think of in promoting mass immigration from the Third World. Everyone should read Rob Sanchez’s two articles from the Social Contract on the Indian lobby: “Pledge of Allegiance — to India” and “Pledge of Allegiance — to India, Part II.” In many respects, Nimrata Randhawa Haley may well prove to be an extension of this lobby.  Bad news, indeed, for South Carolina.

Updates:

Read Nicholas Stix’s new post where, looking toward the future, he argues that Nimrata Randhawa Haley essentially will be the new affirmative action candidate, promoted by the GOP leadership, to step over more qualified white males.

Patrick Cleburne in his most recent post makes some very good points:

Any South Carolinian who assumes Nimrata Nikki Randhawa Haley is going to reject her ethnic interests and defy the GOP Establishment on this question cannot figure odds.

Looking through the comment threads in the various news stories on Haley and her opponent Gresham Barrett I am struck by the vitriolic hatred frequently expressed for Southern white men. They – and the women who love them – need to wake up.

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31 thoughts on “Is Nikki Haley just another neoconservative?

  1. John Gifford

    South Carolina already has Lindsey Grahnesty. Now it’ll have Nikki “H1B” Haley too.

  2. RonL

    Nikki Haley was a leader in the SC legislature opposing taking any Stimulus funds. The truth is that the smears against her helped her. “Ex-lovers” who work for her opponents and a stupid “raghead” comment did more for her campaign than 10 million in donations. Knott’s may as well as given her the nomination with the raghead comment.

    Haley is by no means perfect of immigration, but she seems pretty good on illegal immigration. http://www.nikkihaley.com/issues/immigration
    http://www.nikkihaley.com/haley-immigration-update

    She may be a neoconservative, but her position on immigration looks stronger than Arizona Gov Brewer’s.

  3. Jack Hunter

    This is so off-base I’m not sure where to start. Nikki Haley was the first to endorse implementing AZ style immigration legislation in the wake of that controversy, and to suggest that Gresham Barrett–a “conservative” joke who still defends Bush, TARP, the Iraq War, and every other neocon bugaboo you can imagine–is somehow preferable to Haley, is completely absurd.

    I’m not saying Haley’s perfect, but most of her new neocon admirers are jumping on the bandwagon after she became the obvious frontrunner, much like Rand Paul. Romney came out swinging for Haley early because he desperately wants to be seen as a Tea Party-friendly candidate come his presidential run 2012 in the important primary state of SC, something I mentioned to Haley as a concern for genuine conservatives, and I wasn’t displeased with her answer. There’s a reason Haley mentions some of her earliest supporters–Campaign for Liberty– in almost every SC interview. And there’s also a reason Dick Cheney recorded a robocall for Barrett.

  4. Bede Post author

    Nicholas Stix essentially is arguing that Nikki Haley will be an affirmative action candidate, promoted by the GOP, to step over more qualified white males:

    South Carolina business interests have long used immigration to drive down wages. Haley’s amnestisia, coupled with her unqualified support for business interests, means that if she and the Republican leadership have their way, white men in the Palmetto State, low-skilled and highly skilled alike, will be unemployable. They might as well invade Canada, for all the life chances they’ll have in their own home.

    And just as GOP operatives used Sarah Palin as eye candy to distract (some) Republican voters from John McCain’s unacceptability as a candidate in 2008, a Gov. Haley would immediately go to the top of the list as possible eye candy for the 2012 ticket of the new, diverse GOP, in case they can’t find a non-white-male candidate like Sonny Jindal for the top slot.

  5. Bede Post author

    Jack,

    I see Nimrata Randhawa Haley (AKA, “Nikki” Haley) as being of the same mold as Piyush Jindal (AKA, “Bobby” Jindal). They both are politically astute enough to oppose illegal immigration, but simultaneously (and more quietly) support legal immigration from the Third World. Whether you call it legal or illegal, it has the same effect.

    Unlike Nimrata, Gresham Barrett actually has a proven track record of opposing legal immigration.

  6. Sean Scallon

    Unlike Nikki Haley, Rep. Barrett has a proven track record of supporting government bailouts.

  7. Bruce

    Bail Out Boy Barrett should drop out for the good of the party. There is only one way he could make up such a huge deficit. I am sure he is hoping the next alleged Haley lover has more proof.

    Barrett was a co-sponsor of the VAT until Nikki blasted him for it three times on the ETV debate. The next week Gresham took his name off the bill because” it conflicted with his conservative values.”
    REALLY ?
    When exactly did the conflict begin ? Not until Nikki nailed him on it during the debate. His name had been on that VAT tax increase for a very long time before she pointed it out.

    Barrett claims to be a conservative but when it really counts he is not there for us. That is not just my opinion. Check out the youtube video where he was booed by the Tea Party crowd at the BiLo Center in Greenville,SC for his entire speech (5:32)

    Gresham Barrett’s foolish response was made into a political ad,”I’d do it again.”
    We believe you Gresham. That is why it is time for you to go home !

    Bruce

  8. Bede Post author

    Patrick Cleburne in his most recent post makes some very good points:

    Any South Carolinian who assumes Nimrata Nikki Randhawa Haley is going to reject her ethnic interests and defy the GOP Establishment on this question cannot figure odds.

    Looking through the comment threads in the various news stories on Haley and her opponent Gresham Barrett I am struck by the vitriolic hatred frequently expressed for Southern white men. They – and the women who love them – need to wake up.

  9. Captainchaos

    “Unlike Nikki Haley, Rep. Barrett has a proven track record of supporting government bailouts.”

    Another good reason to support Barrett, the quicker the System bleeds out the better. Our demographic hand will only grow weaker, and what needs to be done (things that no one who supports the continued existence of the System could countenance) will only grow more difficult.

  10. Captainchaos

    The words of Norman Podhoretz from his 1963 essay “My Negro Problem – And Ours”:

    “His past is a stigma, his color is a stigma, and his vision of the future is the hope of erasing the stigma by making color irrelevant, by making it disappear as a fact of consciousness.

    I share this hope, but I cannot see how it will ever be realized unless color does in fact disappear: and that means not integration, it means assimilation, it means — let the brutal word come out — miscegenation. The Black Muslims, like their racist counterparts in the white world, accuse the “so-called Negro leaders” of secretly pursuing miscegenation as a goal. The racists are wrong, but I wish they were right, for I believe that the wholesale merger of the two races is the most desirable alternative for everyone concerned. I am not claiming that this alternative can be pursued programmatically or that it is immediately feasible as a solution; obviously there are even greater barriers to its achievement than to the achievement of integration. What I am saying, however, is that in my opinion the Negro problem can be solved in no other way.”

    I hate to say I told you so, but yup, I did tell ya’ll so. “Neoconservatism” was never anything but an ideology constructed for the purpose of liquidating our race for the benefit of Jewish racial nationalists. Yes, it absolutely is reducible to that, as whatever bits of “Neocon” “ideology” you see fit to waste your time chewing on are but a pretext for that stated goal. It is their ineradicable conviction that in order for their people to live ours must perish – which is quite arguably a precise inversion of reality.

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  12. C.W.

    Here in the UK Indians and blacks are the two most annoying groups of people. They all should be deported.

  13. Bede Post author

    For those who take evolution seriously, it is reasonable that Indians or any other non-Western immigrant to a Western country will never truly be immigration restrictionists (regardless of political posturing). It is in their genetic interest to continue mass immigration from their home countries, as the more co-ethnics they have immigrate here, the more copies of their genes they’ll have around them. Ethnic nepotism runs deep. Likewise, it will be in their genetic interest to oppose an immigration policy that favors Westerners (e.g. The Immigration Act of 1924).

    I can think of many European immigrants (Peter Brimelow, John O’Sullivan, etc.) and know personally many others who are strict immigration restrictionists. They genetically identify with the European-American core. But I have never met a single person with non-Western origins who would support the Immigration Act of 1924. Think about it.

  14. Bede Post author

    Sean,

    Immigration should matter more than bailouts. A nation can recover from bad economic policy. But demographics are destiny. Once the U.S. becomes Brazil, there’s no going back.

  15. John

    Bourbon,

    That’s why they say what they do about anecdotes vs. statistics.

    Blacks are 7 times more likely to commit violent crimes than European Americans (whites), and mestizos are 3 times more likely. (See statistics here and here.)

    Regarding rape, only a few studies have been done, but a 2005 study by the DOJ found the following:

    “In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while less than ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man.”

    Go figure. You can go into your anti-Western diatribes all day, but they are contrary to crime statistics.

    I seriously doubt Bourbon is Tasty is who he says he is. I suspect he’s an Indian, as I can smell him from here and his type of anti-European American rhetoric is typical of Indians.

    See this article quoted in the piece above.

  16. RonL

    Captain Chaos
    “I hate to say I told you so, but yup, I did tell ya’ll so. “Neoconservatism” was never anything but an ideology constructed for the purpose of liquidating our race for the benefit of Jewish racial nationalists. Yes, it absolutely is reducible to that, as whatever bits of “Neocon” “ideology” you see fit to waste your time chewing on are but a pretext for that stated goal. It is their ineradicable conviction that in order for their people to live ours must perish – which is quite arguably a precise inversion of reality.”
    Oy vey. Firstly, there are far more Catholic Neoconservatives that Jewish ones, in terms of ideology. Secondly, there is no Jewish interest in liquidating the white race. Rather liberal Jews support it for the same reason liberal WASPs do, liberalism. And in so far as Jewish groups are involved, it is a raw grievence politics no different from the Irish diaspora.
    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012145.html

  17. Captainchaos

    Ronnie,

    Liberal Jews, or at least the vast majority of them, are yet concerned with the fate of their own people. Liberal Whites, most of them, are indifferent if not hostile to the fate of their own people. So it’s like when a cult leader instructs his followers to drink some delicious strychnine laced Kool-Aid but himself declines as he is conveniently not thirsty.

  18. RedPhillips

    I’ll have more to say about Haley in a separate post, but Barrett has no one to blame but himself. Why did he vote for the bailout when he had aspirations for higher office? Did he think his big money benefactors wouldn’t continue to dole out the large contributions if he didn’t?

  19. RonL

    Jewish liberals (not to mention the hostile left, whether they like bagels and lox or not) are doing a poor job on Jewish survival. There are barely any more Jews today than there were in 1946. (13.4 instead of 11 million.) In 1940m there were 17 million.
    Even with Russian immigration Jews are not even maintaining population in the US, falling from 5.5 million in 1990 to 5.2 million in 2000. I suspect, it will fall to 5 million in the latest census.
    Frankly, contempt for traditional religion, support for abortion and homosexuality, and feminism is hurting Jews in America faster than gentile whites.

  20. Captainchaos

    The demographic future of the Jewish people, both in diaspora and Israel, lies with the Orthodox. Their rate of reproduction is quite strong. I take it as axiomatic that they also enjoy a genetic propensity to ethnocentrism above that of their liberal co-ethnics, the latter of which is already substantially higher than that of the goyim. Whether or not Orthodox Jews are on average less intelligent than liberal Jews I am not aware of. But if so, that breeding pattern would be dysgenic from the perspective of a lowering of the average Jewish group IQ – the Jewish competitive edge could be potentially considerably dulled. Perhaps Netanyahu has people looking into just such matters (it seems like the kind of thing he’d take interest in); and if he does not, I must say, I’ve lost a measure of respect for him, out of the little respect I had for him in the first place, that is.

  21. Captainchaos

    My strong suspicion is that the West’s last, best hope perished at Stalingrad. Given that, as of now, were I a betting man, I would say that the Chinese will eventually come to mastery of the earth. They have more than enough surplus population to effectively flood every key region they desire with a ethnic bloc decisive in terms of numbers and power exerted. Power that will be exerted increasingly at the behest of Beijing. There is something majestically inexorable about the ethnocentrism and ethnic cohesion of the Chinese. Not the hammer of the White man, or the tong and blowtorch which marks the chutzpathic ethnic aggression of the Jew; it is like a river on rock, given enough time, the rock will erode. And at the last the Master Race will have revealed itself, and it was neither of us.

  22. Sean Scallon

    Even if you arrested and deported all the illegal aliens in the country, which should be done because they are breaking the law, even if you put a moratorium on all immigration into the country, which I would support as well, you still have to deal with the fact that by 2050 whites will no longer be a majority because white women have fewer kids than Hispanics, or Indian or Muslim immigrants that are currently citizens today. This is what the first round of amnesty and continued immigration since 1986 has brought us to and even if we acted now we cannot reverse this.

    If we do not have a national policy on immigration then immigration must be a local issue and that means every community and state for itself. This is at the heart of the new Arizona law. If Arizona is not allowed to fashion policy as it see fit in its best interests then we’ve basically entered Sam Francis’ world of anarcho-tyranny: a state of anarchy backed by a tyranny. The borders of Arizona are wide open and anyone can cross because the Feds say so.

    Nikki Haley’s record on immigration as governor is what should be at issue. We do not know what that is going to be, we can only speculate. The neocons and Republicans reptiles see her exactly as proof that affirmative action has reached the GOP and wish to promote her as such, like a zoo exhibit. But I would hope she is someone that Ron Paul Republicans see, a freedom and fiscally conscience person who happens to be of Indian descent but supports such policies because she believes in freedom and is doing good work attacking the corrupt and degenerate South Carolina Republican machine, the scumbag political consultants who run it and all such machines in one-party states. What she is, we really won’t know until she is elected.

  23. JW

    Even if you arrested and deported all the illegal aliens in the country, which should be done because they are breaking the law, even if you put a moratorium on all immigration into the country, which I would support as well, you still have to deal with the fact that by 2050 whites will no longer be a majority because white women have fewer kids than Hispanics, or Indian or Muslim immigrants that are currently citizens today. This is what the first round of amnesty and continued immigration since 1986 has brought us to and even if we acted now we cannot reverse this.

    This is absolutely correct. I read on American Renaissance a few days ago that non-white minorities accounted for 48.6% of the children born in the US between July 2008 and July 2009, gaining ground from 46.8% two years earlier. And according to a demographer interviewed in the article whites could become a minority among newborn children in the US as early as 2011.

    http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2010/06/us_moves_toward.php

    No offense to anyone here, but this is why paleoconservatism is completely insufficient. Racial separation is absolutely the only way to save white Americans. And before this can happen many white Americans will have to embrace ethnonationalism and explicitly pursue their own group interests. But you paleocons often attack ethnonationalism and instead promote a color-blind civic consciousness.

    By the way, I’m a little taken aback by the callousness with which you say that we “have to deal with the fact that by 2050 whites will no longer be a majority.” You obviously don’t really care that much if white Americans are swamped by the Third World just like the Afrikaners were. Instead you would rather just move on and focus on other issues.

  24. JW

    In my previous comment I mentioned how the Afrikaners were overrun by the Third World. However, as Arthur Kemp writes in an article that I found with a quick Google search republished on David Duke’s website, all hope is not lost for them (or for all white South Africans for that matter):

    Yes, this means gathering together the stock Afrikaner nation into a defined area — for example, (and this is just a theoretical example) if 500,000 Afrikaners had to settle in the old Eastern Transvaal, and physically occupy it, then this territory would de facto, and later even de jure, become an Afrikaner state. The only way, then, that Afrikaners can be spared the fate of all first World minorities in Africa, is for them to abandon their dependence on non-White labor, accept that their salvation lies in a smaller territory, and finally pack their bags and congregate in that smaller territory where they will form an outright demographic majority. There is no other way: all else is chaff in the wind. History will tell if the Afrikaners have it within them to undertake this second Great Trek, or if they are doomed to go the way of all-White settlements in Africa: be ploughed under as the Third World destroys them bit by bit.

    http://www.davidduke.com/general/white-western-nations-what-is-going-wrong_4236.html

    White Americans who actually care about preserving their race and culture may ultimately have to do something like this at some point in the future as well. Before then, however, ethnonationalists must try to awaken as many whites as possible.

    By the way, Arthur Kemp’s entire article is an essential read. It tells the story of what went wrong for white South Africans.

  25. RonL

    CC wrote: “My strong suspicion is that the West’s last, best hope perished at Stalingrad.”

    I’ve never understood how any white nationalist could support Hitler. Hitler was not a white nationalist in any sense. He loved only the ahistorical Aryan people that existed in German propoganda. He despised Celts and Slavs. Hitler’s goal for the Slavs was to kill off 1/3, enslave 1/3, and expel the rest beyond the Ural mountains. While the Nazis killed about 6 million Jews and 250,000 Gypsies, a larger number of Europeans were also exterminated.
    And the result of the the anti-nationalist and anti-white Nazis (or as some have called it, “Hitler’s Revenge) has been the destruction of the validity of nationalism and cultural identity in the west.
    http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2660

    The West wasn’t lost at Stalingrad. It was lost when the Nazis gained support in 1932, leading to his becoming chancellor to Hindenburg. It was lost when the Germans helped the Bolsheviks sieze power in 1917. And it was lost when Russia sided with Serbia in 1914.

  26. Captainchaos

    “I’ve never understood how any white nationalist could support Hitler.”

    Hitler had a fundamental grasp of the true exigencies of life. He realized that for a people’s civilization to be maintained that that people must have access to prime resources (in the real world this often comes at the expense of other peoples), guard the genetic quality and purity of its blood (the latter translates to genetic homogeneity which facilitates the requisite altruism for sufficient group cohesion), and ideological/religious indoctrination enforced by elites to prevent cultural and hence biological and civilizational degeneration. He realized that the ideologies and modes of life associated with plutocratic capitalism and Bolshevism – both of which he correctly identified with organized Jewry, though not to the exclusion of degenerate gentile elites – would inevitably lead to the degeneration and mass mongrelization of the White race.

    “He loved only the ahistorical Aryan people that existed in German propoganda.”

    Hitler was himself not interested in the esoteric paganism of the likes of Himmler. In Mein Kampf he directly states the need for a seemingly abstract principle to be concretized, to be fleshed out and given as dogma so the masses can grasp it. He also laments the need for what he deemed as the necessary authoritarian form of his movement as contrasted with the more open in his opinion pagan world of old.

    “He despised Celts and Slavs.”

    He certainly did regard Slavs as (sub)racially inferior to Nordics.

    “Hitler’s goal for the Slavs was to kill off 1/3, enslave 1/3, and expel the rest beyond the Ural mountains.”

    I suspect this alleged ‘fact’ may be as chimerical as the “Prussian Blue” residue which should be on the walls of the alleged ad hoc “gas chambers” at Auschwitz if indeed people were gassed in them. Of course, there is no residue. Would Slavs have been politically disenfranchised and ruled over by Germans for the benefit of Germans? Undoubtedly. But that to me is an outcome to be preferred to the dissolution of the entire race into nothingness.

    “Nazis killed about 6 million Jews and 250,000 Gypsies”

    Horse manure. Self-evidently, leaving all niggling forensic counter-arguments to the side, if the Germans (yes, I did say the Germans), had actually put their full effort into systematically exterminating every last Jew in their grasp there would not have been one left alive. You do realize that, don’t you?

    “Hitler’s Revenge”

    A thing that can only appeal to weak minded fools. If the existence of their race is lost, they lose everything. A consideration that must trump moralistic hand-wringing. Hence the need for strong, clear-eyed leadership.

    “It was lost when the Nazis gained support in 1932, leading to his becoming chancellor to Hindenburg. It was lost when the Germans helped the Bolsheviks sieze power in 1917. And it was lost when Russia sided with Serbia in 1914.”

    All symptoms of the degeneration for which National Socialism was the cure. How else could the Jews have wormed their way into elite positions in our societies unless our elites were themselves degenerate? The same reason that NS was allowed to come to power in the first place, because they were indeed degenerate.

  27. Captainchaos

    Above I stated: “The same reason that NS was allowed to come to power in the first place, because they were indeed degenerate.”

    To which I would like to add: Elites that are non-degenerate (in a Machiavellian sense, and not necessarily a moral one) do not, ever, countenance a substantial challenge to their position as elites. Nor do they act stupidly such that they risk their position as elites utilizing the power vested in them as such – as the European elites did in the case of WWI.

  28. Carlos Perdue

    Why do you make ethnicity, national heritage or religion of someone’s ancestors an issue here? “The indian … aka Nikki…” Come on. She’s not Indian any more than you’re English or whatever your ancestors were. Her parents were legal immigrants and she’s American.

    If Haley’s another H1b queen, making a show of pushing e-verify to cover up her support for excessive legal immigration, then I would oppose her for that reason, but I couldn’t care less if her parents were Sikh or Indian.

    Stay on point and don’t go to the gutter.

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