January
30th 2011
What the US Should Do About Egypt
RedPhillips

Posted under Globalism & Interventionism & NeoCons

What the US should do about Egypt:

Chirp…                                               …chirp, chirp…                                                                           …chirp, chirp, chirp…                                                          ,,,chirp…

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12 Responses to “What the US Should Do About Egypt”

  1. ANGELATC on 31 Jan 2011 at 4:31 am #

    works for me!

  2. Weaver on 31 Jan 2011 at 5:03 am #

    What the US will do (indirectly):

    Boom… Boom!
    Boom, boom, boom.

  3. Nate on 31 Jan 2011 at 5:55 am #

    Yeah Red because chirping like a bird is going to win herts and minds across the world for America freedom? I don’t think so. We need to get involved because America is a global force for good.

  4. Kirt Higdon on 31 Jan 2011 at 1:07 pm #

    This would be a great opportunity to walk away from the entire Middle East as a first step in the dismantling of the US global empire. End the wars, bring the troops home, end all foreign (mostly military) aid and end all arms sales. The US puppet pharoah has already reportedly sent his family into a comfortable exile; he’s free to join them or he can go with the Cleopatra solution before angry peasants get to him and tear him limb from limb. Of course, the US imperial establishment won’t take this opportunity; they’ll get more “involved”.

  5. John McCain 2012 on 31 Jan 2011 at 1:09 pm #

  6. Nate on 31 Jan 2011 at 5:00 pm #

    John McCain 2012,

    Thanks for the video. It reminded my that John McCain is a great patriot who has shown great commitment to our nation’s troops and building up our American military might throughout the world.

  7. RedPhillips on 31 Jan 2011 at 6:16 pm #

    “because chirping like a bird”

    It is supposed to be the chirping of a cricket to indicate silence.

  8. Nate on 31 Jan 2011 at 7:02 pm #

    Red Phillips,

    If it sounds like a cricket is chirping how is it silence? Silence is the absence of sound. That makes zero sense and it is a complete logical fallacy. Kind of like how this site has “conservative” in its title, yet it supports a leftist foreign policy of isolationism and appeasing terrorists.

  9. HarrisonBergeron2 on 31 Jan 2011 at 8:08 pm #

    RedPhillips,

    Good commentary.

    I suspect Nate is Americaneocon’s doppelganger.

  10. RonL on 03 Feb 2011 at 7:02 am #

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/02/AR2011020205041.html

    George Soros: Why Obama has to get Egypt right

    Revolutions usually start with enthusiasm and end in tears. In the case of the Middle East, the tears could be avoided if President Obama stands firmly by the values that got him elected. Although American power and influence in the world have declined, our allies and their armies look to us for direction. These armies are strong enough to maintain law and order as long as they stay out of politics; thus the revolutions can remain peaceful. That is what the United States should insist on while encouraging corrupt and repressive rulers who are no longer tolerated by their people to step aside and allow new leaders to be elected in free and fair elections.

    That is the course that the revolution in Tunisia is taking. Tunisia has a relatively well-developed middle class, women there enjoy greater rights and opportunities than in most Muslim countries, and the failed regime was secular in character. The prospects for democratic change are favorable.

    Egypt is more complex and, ultimately, more influential, which is why it is so important to get it right. The protesters are very diverse, including highly educated and common people, young and old, well-to-do and desperately poor. While the slogans and crowds in Tahrir Square are not advancing a theocratic agenda at all, the best-organized political opposition that managed to survive in that country’s repressive environment is the Muslim Brotherhood. In free elections, the Brotherhood is bound to emerge as a major political force, though it is far from assured of a majority.

    Some have articulated fears of adverse consequences of free elections, suggesting that the Egyptian military may seek to falsify the results; that Israel may be adamantly opposed to a regime change; that the domino effect of extremist politics spreading to other countries must be avoided; and that the supply of oil from the region could be disrupted. These notions constitute the old conventional wisdom about the Middle East – and need to be changed, lest Washington incorrectly put up resistance to or hesitate in supporting transition in Egypt.

    That would be regrettable. President Obama personally and the United States as a country have much to gain by moving out in front and siding with the public demand for dignity and democracy. This would help rebuild America’s leadership and remove a lingering structural weakness in our alliances that comes from being associated with unpopular and repressive regimes. Most important, doing so would open the way to peaceful progress in the region. The Muslim Brotherhood’s cooperation with Mohamed ElBaradei, the Nobel laureate who is seeking to run for president, is a hopeful sign that it intends to play a constructive role in a democratic political system. As regards contagion, it is more likely to endanger the enemies of the United States – Syria and Iran – than our allies, provided that they are willing to move out ahead of the avalanche.

    The main stumbling block is Israel. In reality, Israel has as much to gain from the spread of democracy in the Middle East as the United States has. But Israel is unlikely to recognize its own best interests because the change is too sudden and carries too many risks. And some U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis themselves. Fortunately, Obama is not beholden to the religious right, which has carried on a veritable vendetta against him. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is no longer monolithic or the sole representative of the Jewish community. The main danger is that the Obama administration will not adjust its policies quickly enough to the suddenly changed reality.

    I am, as a general rule, wary of revolutions. But in the case of Egypt, I see a good chance of success. As a committed advocate of democracy and open society, I cannot help but share in the enthusiasm that is sweeping across the Middle East. I hope President Obama will expeditiously support the people of Egypt. My foundations are prepared to contribute what they can. In practice, that means establishing resource centers for supporting the rule of law, constitutional reform, fighting corruption and strengthening democratic institutions in those countries that request help in establishing them, while staying out of those countries where such efforts are not welcome.

    The writer is chairman of the Soros Fund Management and the Open Society Foundations, which support democracy and human rights in more than 70 countries.

  11. RedPhillips on 03 Feb 2011 at 6:00 pm #

    Ron, you seriously need to talk some sense into some of your fellow interventionists. The democracy fetishists are getting carried away with themselves.

    Realizing that that agree with George Soros might make them think twice.

  12. RonL on 07 Feb 2011 at 6:39 pm #

    More on Egypt
    Obama’s allies helped foment this rebellion.
    http://biggovernment.com/libertychick/2011/02/02/was-wikileaks-right-did-union-organizers-and-the-u-s-state-dept-help-plan-egypts-uprising/
    http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2011/02/04/is-seiu-working-with-hamas-and-farc/
    http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?id=5682
    http://bigpeace.com/taylorking/2011/02/03/obama-code-pink-and-egypt-there-are-no-coincidences-in-politics/
    http://noisyroom.net/blog/2011/02/06/obama%E2%80%99s-pal-george-soros-and-the-fall-of-egypt/
    http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/files/filesSavage/Savage-ObamaGivingMiddleEastToIslamistRadicals-Rev03.pdf

    Soros, wrote and editorial in support not only of ending the Mubarak regime, but also supporting the Muslim Brotherhood. He also attacked Israel.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/02/AR2011020205041.html

    Neoconservatives are split with the true believers supporting the Egyptian protesters.
    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/02/the-neocons-split-with-israel-over-egypt/70636/
    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/018554.html
    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/018559.html

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