Posted under "Birther" & Donald Trump & Election 2012 & Political Correctness & Race
You knew this was coming. But here is a surprisingly good rebuttal. I say surprisingly good because it appears at the mainstreamish Big Journalism website. Mainstream conservative websites usually fall all over themselves to prove their anti-racist bona fides, but here the author essentially ridicules the allegation and gives us a very astute analysis of just how the MSM Obama Protection Racket works. I don’t like the way he characterizes the Ann Coulter vs. the birthers clash, but besides that he makes some real common sense observations. (I agree with Coulter that “orthodox birtherism,” meaning that Obama was born in Kenya, is highly implausible, but I think you have to be careful about denouncing birthers in general because the term has come to mean more than just orthodox birtherism and has come to include the “He may be hiding something” crowd. For this reason I have essentially adopted a no enemies to the right of me position, although I am more than willing to correct misstatements of fact and have highly discouraged dogmatic assertions where dogmatic assertions are not warranted.)
A few weeks ago, Trump came along and asked simply, “Why doesn’t Obama clear this up once and for all and release his long form birth certificate?” Naturally, Obama’s MSM Palace Guards immediately became obsessed with Trump (Trumpers?) and tried to marginalize the billionaire as one of those “crazy birthers.” But the problem for them (and Obama) is that Americans already know Trump. They know he’s no fringe extremist and so a lot of reasonable voters are now starting to ask, “Yeah, why won’t he release it?”
Thaddeus on 15 Apr 2011 at 7:53 am #
I am now completely convinced that Trump is running, and I actually think he has a reasonable shot at winning.
So what does this mean for radical traditionalism? He may be a better candidate for us than any other, aside from Ron Paul. He doesn’t seem like an interventionist, and was firmly against the Iraq war.
I don’t know how much of a slave to Israel he might be, and I dread to think that he might be pro-”gay-marriage”. I hope not. But all in all, I think he has a shot, owing to the sheer dull greyness of ciphers like Romney and Pawlenty and the rest. He can go toe to toe with the Hollywood propaganda around Obama. He will certainly be more convincing in front of a TV camera than any Republican candidate.
Bruce on 15 Apr 2011 at 11:30 am #
Trump quasi-groveled when he said he liked Obama and wanted him to succeed and really wished he didn’t have to do this (quotes from memory) but still got called a racist and will get called a racist. Lesson is don’t grovel – call Obama an idiot and a doofus since either way you’re a racist.
I don’t think Trump will win. The Christian “Right” won’t vote for him because they won’t believe his anti-abortion bona-fides. But what does that matter? Huckleberry won’t pull a Peroutka-Baldwin and run on a platform of Andy Jacksonian “let’s see them enforce it.” ANd he’ll do zero about abortion. As Tom Piatak says, Lucy will pull the football out from under Charlie Brown again. So why not vote for Trump? Because they’re the stupid party, of course.
He’s probably a dirtbag but at least Trump seems to want to put America’s interests first. The horror!!
Matt Weber on 15 Apr 2011 at 4:02 pm #
The racist charge against birthers is wholly dishonest. If Jesse Jackson were running for president, as he did once, there would be zero questions about his having been born in the US. Obama’s problem is that he has a foreign parent, but his dimwitted partisans can’t or won’t understand that.
roho on 15 Apr 2011 at 9:30 pm #
Trump knows that if you bluff in the business world, you may have to pay up in real money……….I think that he has a lot of dirt on “Obama”, but it’s not time to close the deal. (And why share it in a Primary Season with a bunch of Chicken Hawk Chicken Shit Politicians?)
There is sooooooooooooo much circumstantial evidence on Obama out there, that even the Chicago Mob can’t keep it under wraps! (And Raum Emanuel knows that.)………I’m talking gayness, drug traficking, phoney documents, and the list goes on and on! The Sauidi Royal family covered his Harvard costs, and kicked in an extra $16 Million as a donation…………………..His gay golfing Buddy was poppeed in a sting operation in Hawaii last week trying to purchase a male prostitute. (An undercover cop.)
Barry may be like Senator Jim Wright and LBJ’s brother, having had more sex with congressmen than they would like to admit?
Kirt Higdon on 16 Apr 2011 at 1:25 am #
OK, so birtherism has come to mean “he must be hiding something”, a definition broad enough to include me and practically anyone else. (Everyone is hiding something; I know I am and more than one thing.) At the same time, birtherism cannot be criticized because it now defines “the right” and we can’t have any enemies to the right. This gets more brainless as it goes along. The mobs now so anxious to follow this braying orange-haired puffy faced golden ass back to Egypt need a lot more than just 40 years in the wilderness. They need a half millenium dark age at minimum to work on the basics before being allowed anywhere near the levers of political power.
Bobby on 16 Apr 2011 at 3:20 am #
Birtherism is nothing more than conviction seeking an answer to an amoeba type question. Unwillingness to answer that simgle celled & valid question has been the food source to grow this controversy exponentially from day one. Curiosity being one of human nature’s primary driving sources to resolve theory into fact pique interest especially on the political front. That couldn’t be more significant now with so much to lose with our fiscal well being at stake & numerous other issues via the selection of who & what philosophy governs this nation moving forward. Birtherism might be one of the single most important movements embracing us because it brings into question who is willing to stand by their convictions in seeking truths that it seems the majority is reluctant to pursue due to unfair criticism (attacks) of their quest/motive. I personally can’t ever recall when collectively millions of tax paying citizens have been ridiculed or persecuted for standing by the curiosity of the single most important public figure refusing to disclose any & all past public records of himself for the good of unity & clarity by the American public. This isn’t a matter of critical thinking or an organized plot to unseat a man duly elected unfairly but one entirely to relieve the assumption transparency is amiss by expending so many resources & energy to counter all attempts of disclosure. Being a birther is activism personnified hellbent on satisfying curiosity into final fact. Birthers are pursuing a righteous cause of “yeah, the guy is hiding something” indeed. I find the left completely void of all curiosity which is entirely out of character & concerns this birther as much as the controversy itself..
RedPhillips on 16 Apr 2011 at 5:01 pm #
“OK, so birtherism has come to mean ‘he must be hiding something’”
Kirt, I didn’t say “he MUST be hiding something.” I have tried hard to avoid making definitive assertions. I said “he MAY be hiding something.”
And I don’t intend to “follow” Trump anywhere. I still intend to support Ron Paul. But I much appreciate Trump for his willingness to publicly take a stand on an issue where too many others have a serious case of the squishes.
And my use of “no enemies to the right of me” was figurative and not literal. I suspect you knew this and are just looking for reasons to nit pick.
Kirt Higdon on 18 Apr 2011 at 2:46 pm #
Caught the Trump segment on Fox and friends this morning and noted how cordially he was treated by the regulars, not to mention having his ample posterior kissed by the Chairman of the RNC who followed him on. The latter was most anxious that everyone should know he had never said a word against the Donald.
But the real news broke yesterday when Trump announced that he would make a better President than Romney because he had a much, much higher net worth. Trump is a caricature of himself and this is apparently what most of the Repubs want. Vote for me because I’m richer than my opponent. Only in America; only in the Republican Party.
Kirt Higdon on 18 Apr 2011 at 3:20 pm #
Sorry for the misquote, Red. OK, so you’re saying he MAY be hiding something. Well, what a wimpy excuse for a birther you turned out to be. Even I’ll go way out on a limb and say he MUST be hiding something. It’s just that I don’t much care what, in that his public actions are far worse than anything he is likely to be hiding.
And yes I have noticed that you have tried hard to avoid making definitive assertions. Vagueness seems to be your stock and trade.
RedPhillips on 18 Apr 2011 at 7:34 pm #
“And yes I have noticed that you have tried hard to avoid making definitive assertions. Vagueness seems to be your stock and trade.”
It’s called prudence. I value my credibility. The fact is I don’t know the truth. Nobody does except Obama, which is why he needs to open his records. Why am I supposed to be OK with this kind of uncertainty? What about that is so hard for you to understand?